Ok here we go.
The Huxwrx is OK but its not a better choice than the majove 9 I suggested. on any platform. Fixing the MPX gas is really solved by aftermarket parts via ILWT. If you absolutely have to run it stock the Hux is a good choice, but that would not be my first choice.
The TBAC is fine and the TBAC focus on accuracy really doesn't apply to this .22lr can (and I love TBAC stuff) and I can assure you will be happy with one but the B&T is way better and you will be happier with it. For all appearances B&T has solved most of the issues. Backordered parts I had from last year have now shown up. My wararnty issues are now resolved. Assuming you can find the actual product you want I would say get it with pretty low risk.

Yup, Mojave 9.

If you’re talking about the ILWT barrel with the adjustable gas block, then you’ve got to add the price of the barrel to the price of whatever can you get, plus they warn you the gas plug is a consumable item that will eventually erode through, and you’ll likely have to get a new one. Yes, it is a solution, but if you get a good suppressor in the first place, you only pay once. My MPX has a ILWT barrel, and I considered getting the one with the adjustable gas block, but decided I didn’t want to hassle with it and just focused on getting good low backpressure suppressors like the CAT MOB, OCL Milkman, Rugged SUB9, and RXD910Ti (which is basically a cheaper, larger diameter non-modular Mojave 9). Unfortunately for what the OP is looking for, these are mostly PCC cans and kind of large to also run on a pistol. YMMV.

The algorithm decided I needed to share this with 911 Boss.

Here’s your Flow 9K vs a couple budget cans from a few generations back.

I have no issue that the Hux is low backpressure, but its loud and sucks overall if you want some kind of balanced performance or want to use it on something that doesn't need max low pressure. I run it on a very short barrel B&T that I simply cannot mitigate the gas any other way. But the ILWT stuff works to solve the MPX and its not a consumable the way most people would use the word, and you can get a suppressor that will be ok on the MPX and OK on lots of other stuff. I don't have the suggested CAT or OCL but I do have the Hux, Rugged and the DA and neither are as good for a general purpose use as the majove.

OMG this is getting exhausting…


Based on prices, effectiveness, availability, etc. I am now looking at the YHM R9 for the MPX/P226.

My understanding is I need the suppressor itself along with either a m13. 5x1 lh direct thread adapter or 3 lug adapter/3 lug barrel adapter for the MPX and a Nielsen booster with m13.5x1 lh piston for the P226.

Can anyone confirm or advise if I am missing something?

This still keeps the 9mm can in the $700 range (Mojave is outside my budget) and allows for a dedicated .22 can.


PS- Thanks Smudge for side by side of video. R9 seemed noticeably quieter than the HUXWRX.

ok except to make sure that what you choose on the MPX has to deal with the taper. Either via a mount that knows about it, or a taper adapter (inexpensive) or a mount that indexes of the muzzle (rarer).
j

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Originally posted by hrcjon:
ok except to make sure that what you choose on the MPX has to deal with the taper. Either via a mount that knows about it, or a taper adapter (inexpensive) or a mount that indexes of the muzzle (rarer).
j

Is there a difference in m13.5x1 lh direct thread/3-lug adapters and ones for tapered and non-tapered barrel?

I’m not sure I understand what exactly is tapered and how it would affect the thread pattern for the piece that screws on to the end.



**ETA** OK, I figured out the tapered barrel issue. Found a place that makes a m13.5x1 lh “hub” adapter designed to register on the MPX muzzle instead of the taper then directly threads into the can.

Not as clean looking as a 3-lug, but fewer pieces and less $ to get it attached on the MPX.

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Originally posted by 911Boss:
OMG this is getting exhausting…

Yeah, it's like drinking from a firehose at first, like a lot of things. We are trying to help you avoid some pitfalls, but like I said earlier, there is no perfect can and you just have to pick your trade offs. Just know that whatever you end up with is going to be a lot quieter than bare muzzle.

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Originally posted by 911Boss:
PS- Thanks Smudge for side by side of video. R9 seemed noticeably quieter than the HUXWRX.

The algorithm dropped that one in my lap and it was just perfect. Glad it helped. A lot of guys will handwave videos like this because it's not the same as hearing them in person and the microphones have their own natural compression, with usually more on top of that from speakers/headphones, but I think they're valuable in comparisons because you do at least get a sense of how they'll sound in relation to each other.

I think a guy could do a hell of a lot worse than an R9, honestly. There are some real dogshit cans on the market.

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I’m not sure I understand what exactly is tapered and how it would affect the thread pattern for the piece that screws on to the end.

In some ways I hate sig for this. But this complexity is 100% their doing. What you need to learn is where the device you are adding to the barrel indexes. Everything that threads on has to know where to stop threading.
Different devices use differnt parts of the end of the barrel. Some use the end of the barrel those don't need anything really. Some use the taper that is built into the barrel and if they do that natively all set. But if you has one that expects a hard shoulder like you would find on most barrel and you have the taper you need a taper adapter to bridge the gap.
Its not a big deal the people the sell you the parts can explain it. If you want 3 lug for example you get one that indexes off the taper (ILWT) and then you don't care on the other side with your suppressor, its just 3 lug.
Make sense or want a bit more?

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Originally posted by hrcjon:
In some ways I hate sig for this. But this complexity is 100% their doing. What you need to learn is where the device you are adding to the barrel indexes…

Thanks, that confirms what I was able to sleuth after posting. Ecco Machine does a direct hub mount designed for the MPX and registers on the muzzle so taper isn’t involved.

Ecco makes good stuff. I use the ILWT 3 lug that indexes on the taper which works great if you prefer 3 lug.

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Originally posted by hrcjon:
Ecco makes good stuff. I use the ILWT 3 lug that indexes on the taper which works great if you prefer 3 lug.

Actually leaning towards 3-lug, part number or link?

Is it possible for 3-lug with a booster on the P226?

I have never seen 3 lug with a booster piston. If it even exists, it would be very, very rare.

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Originally posted by ibanda:

I've done business with my local FFL with Silencer Shop handling the forms in the background, bought directly from Silencer Shop and had it sent to my FFL, and gone thru the Capitol Armory ship to you front door program. All the purchases have gone relatively smoothly and once you have your account setup and have done one purchase thru either SS or CA the additional purchases are really easy.

So now that I have settled on the cans, YHM R9 and Thunder Beast 22, suggestions on “process” please.

I have a local dealer that will handle the paperwork process, quoted $50 for the transfer but would “make a deal” for multiple cans in a single transaction. I am assuming that is as an individual.

Capitol Armory sounds promising, $8 for do it yourself fingerprints and $79 for a trust that appears a one time fee that lets you add/subtract NFA items. Additional people can added by submitting prints and modifying the trust. If I understand correctly, no charges for changes to items and trustees on the CA - anyone have a CA trust and can explain the process?

I’m guessing a trust is the better way to go?


Does using CA trust lock me in to them for future purchases? They have both the cans I’m looking for at about $160 more total than another seller. Single one-time trust would save me maybe $30 on paperwork from the local FFL. So might be willing to pay the extra up front for trust instead of individual transfer.


Can I buy a can from another seller and take possession via adding to the CA trust then being mailed to me direct once ATF approved or does it have to go through CA?

I’m pretty sure your dealer is going to charge a transfer fee whether you submit as an individual or a trust. It’s a payment for their time and work in preparing the Form 4, and that doesn’t really change either way.

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I have never seen 3 lug with a booster piston.

As Dwill104 says this simply does not exist.
If you want mpx 3 lug then go here.
https://inleadwetrust.com/prod...ter-w-1-2-28-muzzle/
or select the one with no 1/2-28 threads on it if that is your preference.

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Originally posted by Dwill104:
I’m pretty sure your dealer is going to charge a transfer fee whether you submit as an individual or a trust. It’s a payment for their time and work in preparing the Form 4, and that doesn’t really change either way.

I get that there would be the transfer fee, just curious if it has to be bought from CA to be put on the trust I get from them or if I can buy from another dealer and have it added to that trust.

The simplest answer that provides the best result in the long run:

Transfer through your FFL, file as individual. One you get them home, have our own HeavyD (Dean Phillips) create a trust, then you yourself go on the ATF eforms site and transfer those cans to your trust. It’s faster, you’ll have a trust you have more control over, and you’ll be better off for it in the long run.

I filed four cans this week, and that’s exactly what I’m doing. Could be the difference between getting them home potentially as quickly as one day, or waiting upwards of two months. Once you have them home and in your possession, it doesn’t matter how long it takes the ATF to approve them going into your trust. Much, much faster to file as an individual.