Don't refrain from sharing. The information is useful. Your initial evaluation was certainly correct; someone who doesn't use Silencershop would start counting on the day that yours was "pending". For someone who's not familiar with Silencershop, like me, it was confusing that you waited four months, but didn't include one of them in your final count; but now I understand why.
Between yours and hrcjon's examples, it seems a ninety day turnaround is perhaps a bit fortunate, but certainly within realistic hoping range for most, in terms of E-file form4.
It's interesting to note that the Silencershop administrative time has a much bigger impact on an E-form4, due to the overall shorter ATF processing time. An extra month on a three month wait is a bigger deal than an extra month on a 12 month wait.This message has been edited. Last edited by: KSGM,
April 27, 2022, 07:28 AM
Dwill104
The issue with SS is that their process is for the dealer to use SS’s Full Auto software to fill in the ATF eForm. Basically, instead of the dealer manually filling out the Form 4, they push a button, and the fields on the form are autopopulated through the software. When eForm 4 went live on 12/23, the SS software wasn’t ready. It wasn’t until mid-January that the software was rolled out to most of the dealers and training was provided.
In short, there was an initial 3-4 week delay once eForm 4 came out due to delays in SS getting their software out and working. That delay doesn’t exist now. I bought my can from store stock on 12/29, but it wasn’t ready to certify until 1/21, three weeks later. I don’t believe that three week delay currently exists for SS purchases because the software is out and working.
Does the SS admin process add time? Yes. Is it the same now as it was in January? No.
April 27, 2022, 03:02 PM
bnz42
I certified a Griffin Recce 5, from the Silencer Shop on 1-21-22. E-filed trust. My stamp was approved 4-27-22.
April 27, 2022, 04:02 PM
hrcjon
my experience with SS delays is actually worse than the Dwill104 discussion. Through a variety of mistakes on SS part orders from last fall were eventually migrated to efile in 2022. And that meant the earliest they got to the ATF was 1/21/22 or 1/22/22 as Dwill104 explains. But that story is having a happy ending. Today another of the 1/22/2022 batch arrived approved so clearly 4-8 months earlier than had the original paper forms been submitted. So here you go. individual, efile 1/22/2022. approved 4/27/2022. This is looking better and better, congratulations to the ATF people working on this program. Oddly (never try and explain the ATF) the first of my catchup batch filed on 1/21/2022 has not been seen. And more to the point recent SS orders take less than 24hours to get to certify.
“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
April 30, 2022, 03:57 PM
Nickelsig229
Surefire socom rc2 purchased from Brad here on the forums. 366 days from check cashed on a trust.
Waiting sucked but the joy of playing with it made it worth it.
First In Last Out
April 30, 2022, 04:11 PM
DaBigBR
quote:
Originally posted by Nickelsig229: Surefire socom rc2 purchased from Brad here on the forums. 366 days from check cashed on a trust.
Waiting sucked but the joy of playing with it made it worth it.
Glad to hear it's finally going home!
May 01, 2022, 10:20 PM
neverenoughguns
I have completed two form 4 transfers (suppressors) since the beginning of the year using eforms. One took right at 91 days and the other 98 days.
May 02, 2022, 09:31 PM
Creeping_Death
Form 4 Trust submitted 3/25/21, dealer notified me of approval 4/29/22, in hand 5/2/22.
May 03, 2022, 05:43 PM
hrcjon
The last of my first batch of Eform4's arrived today. So submitted 1/22/2022 cleared on 5/3/2022. The next one was submitted on 2/1/2022 has not yet been seen so they are running a bit over the 90 day window in my case. My Paper forms are now all over 8 months FWIW.
“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
May 03, 2022, 08:13 PM
sasquatch28
quote:
Originally posted by hrcjon: The last of my first batch of Eform4's arrived today. So submitted 1/22/2022 cleared on 5/3/2022. The next one was submitted on 2/1/2022 has not yet been seen so they are running a bit over the 90 day window in my case. My Paper forms are now all over 8 months FWIW.
I’m waiting on a 2/1/22 myself.
May 04, 2022, 08:51 AM
M4Super90
Trust eForm4 submitted 4/6/22, approved 4/29/22. Paper Form 4s from March and June 2021 still pending.
115 + 115 = 230
May 04, 2022, 11:30 AM
Creeping_Death
quote:
Originally posted by M4Super90: Trust eForm4 submitted 4/6/22, approved 4/29/22. Paper Form 4s from March and June 2021 still pending.
Is this a new record?!?!
May 06, 2022, 11:32 AM
prpratt
Two eform 4's on SS trusts, both approved on day 101. Much better than I was expecting.
May 06, 2022, 03:29 PM
DaBigBR
As a dealer, I've seen one come back took 92 days. I have another half dozen or so pending. Longest pending right now is about 105 days.
May 14, 2022, 03:17 AM
rangemaster
quote:
Originally posted by rangemaster: I finally took the plunge. Bought a SilencerCo 45K Osprey and a .22 Osprey. Sent off the individual application(s) yesterday......
Got my two cans this week. Four days shy of THIRTEEN MONTHS.
Let’s go brandon.
I’m going to do another .22 can trying efile.
May 22, 2022, 06:06 PM
SFCUSARET
YHM Turbo T2, Form 4 efile (thru Silencer Shop) certified 1/27/22, approved and received 5/16/22. 109 days.
YHM Res K, Form 4 paper (thru Silencer Shop), check cashed 8/9/21. Still pending. 287 days out and counting.This message has been edited. Last edited by: SFCUSARET,
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May 26, 2022, 07:31 PM
sasquatch28
Got my YHM Resonator K today. 114 days.
May 26, 2022, 09:56 PM
Creeping_Death
SBS Form 4 submitted 3/26/21, approved 5/9/22, stamp and hardware in hand today 5/26/22.
May 27, 2022, 12:44 PM
krieg
waiting almost a year now for my paper form 4 individual on a KAC OHG. christ.
May 27, 2022, 06:57 PM
hrcjon
my oldest outstanding Eform4 cleared today so 119 days for this one. Getting slower, but still way better than the paper ones that I have outstanding.
“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”