My prayers have been answered and surefire finally figured out the new world order. I have a major investment in surefire and while the B&T gave some relief on how to get a hub suppressor to use a SOCOM muzzle device it has a bunch of silly design choices and is not very good.
I don't know how unobtanium the surefire hub will be, but this has made my day.

Nice. Now it just needs to get to primary arms with a 12% discount. Lol. I have also not been too impressed with the B&T hub. Saves me the trouble of buying a Warden and having it machined. Thanks for the heads up.

I wish there was someone who would still machine a surefire trainer as I bought one for just that. but I don't think there is anyone still willing to do that.

Someone on Reddit told me that Big Hoss Machine was still doing Warden conversions.

Factory Surefire Hub adapter is available. I foolishly ordered off the Surefire website site at 3am, while a vendor is selling them for $30 less this morning. I am excited to compare against my B&T Surefire Hub adapter.

I bet that comparison does not go well for B&T. Their implementation really truly sucks (and I am normally someone who loves B&T stuff).
I'm hoping as I have my name in at about a dozen places to find a couple of them soon. seems difficult at the moment...

Mine was delivered last night. I'll try to install it today. Also Riflegear has the 556 in stock as of now.

The instructions indicate the need for a spanner wrench. The B&T spanner wrenches you should have received with your B&T HUB non-RBS can seem to fit However, on the SRBS, they moved the grasping points to the larger part of the can for some stupid reason, and it is more difficult using the spanner wrenches.

After installing it in the SRBS Compact, it is a pleasure to use, compared to the B&T. I can install it with gloves or w/o, unlike the B&T which I feel I can't install w/o gloves, and definitely can't remove without. It's also both shorter overall and shorter out the back of the can. The earlier B&T hub required I switch out the insert so 4-prong flash hiders were supported. You might also notice it opens up further than than the newer B&T Hub mount.

From left to right: early B&T Hub with switched insert , newer B&T Hub (labeled 5.56 on side), and Surefire Hub.


Annoyingly, one side appeared to come with some surface rust, or at least a poor application of their ion bond/dlc coating.


The other side to compare. (sorry about the long thumbnail)


Surefire hub was the heaviest at 5.3oz, then newer B&T at 5.1oz, and the older B&T at 5.0oz.

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Sadly riflegear had none when I got your suggestion, but on the list there to add to my notifications elsewhere. But your picures prove surefire has solved my real issue. My problem has been the length of the B&T hub is just too long to work on several cans I have, never mind the silly design for the lock. Thanks for posting this.

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Originally posted by hrcjon:
Sadly riflegear had none… Thanks for posting this.

You’re welcome. They had 3 at the time of posting, and they lasted about an hour.