As the title says, looking to purchase my first suppressor, and the initial host will be a G19X with factory Glock threaded barrel. I don’t intend to suppress any other firearms except for 9mm pistols. I’m not locked in to a budget at this point, but it would be wonderful if the suppressor itself was under $1000.

I see lots of recommendations for the Rugged Obsidian 9, and my local shop was pushing the CGS Mod 9. Any thoughts on these two, or are there others that I should consider? Bonus points for 10oz weight or less.

I've been an Obsidian 9 fan for a very long time and overall its a great suppressor. But its a bit old school in construction and really built like a tank. So its relatively heavy at least in the long configuration. At this point if you can afford it for a pistol I would look at the 3d printed Ti options. The one I have experience with is the DA Majove 9. Its very light weight and has no obvious flaws in my use. The other one I would investigate if money doesn't matter is the PTR Vent2. I see great sound reviews on that, but don't have personal experience. I'm trying to find one to buy myself. On that one you will need to seperately buy a booster as it doesn't come with one.

Something to be aware of with the PTR Vent cans is that once they foul up, their performance begins to drop off pretty dramatically, and it happens quickly. Apparently they recommend cleaning their 5.56 cans every thousand rounds in an overnight soak of Breakthrough. I could see a 9mm can getting nasty a lot faster. As such, I think I’ve lost interest in them due to the amount of rounds I shoot through suppressed 9mm in a single range trip.

The Mojave 9 comes highly recommended. Andrew at Otter Creek says it’s currently the best 9mm can on the market. I think it says a lot for a suppressor manufacturer to voluntarily endorse a competitor’s product to a random guy on Reddit who asked.

That’s all relevant if you want to go with a printed titanium can. My Ecco Machine Phoenix TL ten baffle weighs 8.3oz without a mount, and it was quieter than my friend’s Rugged Obsidian when we tested them last fall. Same ammo through the same hosts, both cans tri lugged. It’ll be cheaper, too. People sleep on Ecco Machine suppressors and it just astounds me.

I'm not sure how any of these 3d printed cans that can't be dissasembled might actually differ on the issue of cleaning. PTR says 1000 rounds and soak it. DA says basicly the same thing. I'm pretty happy with the Mojave but of course I don't have anything in the same type to compare it to.
My obsidian is trival to clean just pull it apart and into the ultrasonic it goes. So far the Mohave is not that much extra work toss it into something and let it soak overnight, blow it out and shoot it. but I have no idea if that will work long term. That's one of my big concerns with these cans in smaller calibers, the rifle cans I don't worry too much.

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My Ecco Machine Phoenix TL

Isn't that also a sealed can? So you have the same cleaning issue(s) I would think. I have a sealed 9mm can (a wolfman) and I treat it pretty much the same as the Majove9... though DA says I could bead blast the blast chamber I don't have a way to do that.

Yeah, it's a tubeless can, so sealed. All of mine are so far. I just throw them in the ultrasonic a couple times a year with a glug or two of some aircraft grade Simple Green in a jar and fill it with hot water. The jars come out after ten minutes with the solution solid black, so it's getting a lot of the crap out, but I wouldn't say they're spotless. There's carbon that builds up. I wanna try some Breakthrough soon and if it does what it's supposed to, maybe give them the sparkle treatment once a year or so. Otter Creek says with their rifle cans to just use Breakthrough once a year if you're gonna clean them at all. Andrew has said a few times that I've seen that people clean rifle cans way more than they ought to. Specifically with the Vent cans, though, they do start to clog up and lose their effectiveness pretty quickly based on how they're built. I've talked with a few industry guys about the PTR Spiritus I shot that was so friggin' loud. It had been shot for several hours before I got to try it and the guess so far is that it was fairly well clogged before I got to it. Had I gotten to shoot it fresh, it probably would've amazed me. Apparently more traditional cans and even tubeless don't suffer that kind of degradation in performance until they're fairly well packed with lead, which takes tens of thousands of rounds with no cleaning. Ecco says the Phoenix should be fine with intermittent cleaning, but recommends shooting only FMJ so lead doesn't build up inside it, and that's the only commentary I've seen from them about the sealed thing in regards to cleaning.

Oddly enough, I've been seriously thinking about picking up a Griffin Revolution for a second pistol can. Traditional tube and baffle stack setup, so stepping back fully from the printed and tubeless "advancements." I can't get over the one I shot at the industry day shoot back in April. It was comfortable to shoot without earpro on a G19. I know, I don't intend to make a habit of that. It was a big 'ol honkin' can on that pistol, but the balance was great, and I didn't notice any first round pop, and no shit blowing back in my face. It was in the full configuration, not the K, so 11.7oz according to the website, plus booster. I'm tempted to go for a .45 can this time, and just be ok with being a hair less quiet at the muzzle for a bigger blast chamber, and a little less backpressure and port pop.

Maestro, hopefully this doesn't just look like a lot of thread drift to you. These are all thoughts I've been having about a new pistol can for myself. I want to pick up another one so I can move the Ecco to just pistols, but also be able to migrate another can back and forth between pistols and PCC's, and be able to handle bigger than a 9mm. Oh, and regarding CGS, I feel like I've seen mixed reviews lately. I'll pull some results and aggregate tomorrow.

The CGS can uses stainless at the blast baffle-then aluminum baffles. Quiet can-excellant sound reduction and lightweight.
AAC makes the Illusion-- eccentric bore to allow you to use the can on pistols without tall suppressor sights. Uses the original Maxim design for baffles. Stainless blast baffle-then aluminum baffles. Lightweight,
Obsidian 9--all stainless baffles, slightly heavier.Short or long configuration.

My LGS convinced me to purchase a CGS Mod 9X. It’s modular (2 possible configurations) and made of titanium, so very lightweight. They even demonstrated it in the store for me.

Once it gets out of ATF purgatory and I shoot it, I’ll post my thoughts.

I have a G19X and the CGS Mod 9 and I’m delighted with it. The CGS Mod 9 is also great on my Ruger PC9 TD.

Before the end of the year/end of the rebate I picked up a Beretta APX A1 Tactical but I haven’t gotten it to the range yet with the CGS Mod 9, but I expect it will be good-to-go on that one as well.