Want to buy a Sig P-220 Nickel made in the 80 or 90 with original box and paper work.
Thank you

Be skeptical of anyone contacting you by only email, possibly claiming to be such-and-such SIGforum member, wanting either to sell what you're looking for or claiming to know somebody that has it and "here's their email address." That kind of thing is almost a guarantee they're scammers.

To protect themselves we recommended members require respondents post to the thread as well as follow-up via email.

See: Scammer

Still looking?

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Originally posted by DeepBlue:
Still looking?

Why are you using a VPN? And why are you pulling up old ads?

Disconnect your VPN and post again in this thread, if you don't want your account disabled, because right now, you look like a scammer.

March, 2024 is considered an old ad? Since when is using a VPN cause for suspicion? It's just good practice as I use one 24/7 these days.

I happen to have a Sig 220 ST I was about to post for sale here.

Yes, it's an old ad, and using a VPN in Classifieds is suspicious these days because of all the scammer activity of the past two to three years.

You registered in 2017. Of your 12 posts, 11 of them have been in the last 5 months, and all but 3 of those posts are in Classifieds.

You look like someone trying to establish a reputation in the forum in advance of pulling a fast one.

What, do you think I'd be confronting you just to fuck with you? I'm telling you- your behavior fits a pattern. My concern is protecting the members of this forum from being scammed.

I see.

Well, I'm sure you have good reasons for your heightened vigilance. Same as I have good reasons for not showing much activity on this forum given that I only have two Sigs and now I'm considering selling one of them. By the way, I could have sworn that I'm missing a bunch of threads from ages ago when I had issues with extractor on P220 and community directed me to a specialist. Unless that transpired on a different forum.

Obviously, I am not privy to the inner workings of this community, nor was I aware of any recent scammer activity, which sounds rather alarming.

Respectfully, I hope you don't mind me sayings that on one hand, its gratifying to see Mods acting in a protective fashion to prevent potential trouble, on another, confronting random people and accusing them of being scammers could come off as a bit unwelcoming and indicative of a bunker mentality.

In any event, best of luck with your efforts and I hope that you have a lovely rest of your day and a great weekend!

There was and is nothing "random" about confronting you. Once again, I tell you that your behavior fits a specific pattern.

To make it clearer for you: A scammer finds an old account in the forum, one which has no posts or very few posts and which shows no activity for a long time. The scammer is able to crack the account password, by using a tool, or by finding an account with a weak password, such as password1 or 123abc.

The scammer posts a bit to establish a presence in the forum, then finds WTB ads in which the member appears to have been unsuccessful in finding the item they want. The scammer says "I have just what you're looking for" and the asking price is attractive. The member sends their money and the scammer is never seen again.

If you want to sell your pistol here, be my guest, but my concern is not about being off-putting with a member who, at best, appears to have shown up after years, only because they have something to sell. The assumption is that all members who post in this forum are adults, and therefore should have life experience which lends them a thick skin.

Regarding a "bunker mentality", you take a look at this and tell me, in light of what you read in that thread, how I should behave when I see things I deem suspicious: https://sigforum.com/eve/forum...0601935/m/6040087784

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Regarding a "bunker mentality", you take a look at this and tell me, in light of what you read in that thread, how I should behave when I see things I deem suspicious: https://sigforum.com/eve/forum...0601935/m/6040087784

ooof

Fair enough. Instead of getting defensive, I suppose, I would have to admit that you have no way of knowing that I am the same person who opened this account originally. Additionally, if current climate is really such as it is, someone dealing with a account such as mine would be taking even more of a risk than normal.

Honestly, its been ages since I did an online person to person transaction and I was hoping to get some up to date guidance with regards to current best practices. This may be naive of me but given the nature of these sort of transactions, I would hope that some precautions are taken to safeguard against various scams. Such as using https://www.escrow.com/ for payment or similar.

In any event, it seems that things being as they are, it would be difficult for me to do a transaction with my account in its current state, unless I spend quite a bit time on the forum building history. Which should be done organically in any event, lest it ends up looking suspicions. Perhaps, I should hold off for now or take my FFL's low ball offer, or maybe go the gunbroker route. In meantime, I'm going to all the forums I used in the past to change my passwords.

In any event, I appreciate your efforts towards keeping others safe and incurring pushback in return for your efforts.

You've lost nothing in the way of reputation, because every regular member of this forum knows that if I had the least suspicion of you at this point, you would not have been invited to list your pistol here.

You're right- I really have no way of knowing that you are the same person who opened the account, but I've been down this road enough times to stake my reputation on you being the actual owner of this account, and that you can be trusted to deliver on your sale. Most people consider themselves to be good judges of character. In my case, it happens to be true. All I need is to see how a person reacts to being braced like this. In this case, there are things unsaid in this exchange which factor into that feeling.

If after my having said this, you still don't feel comfortable listing here, that's on you, not me.

Appreciate the sentiment, but its not what I meant at all. I was merely concerned about increasing transaction stress overall given my noobish looking account. But that is something the other party will have to make a call about same as I have to make sure that I'm dealing with a trustworthy individual on my end.

You can rest assured that any established member of this forum- that is to say, anyone with at least a thousand posts and a few years membership here- will hold up their end of any deal you make with them, like Jesus Himself.

Not only do I hold these members to a high standard, their pride of membership in this forum is an indication that they are ethical in their behavior. SIGforum Classifieds is not a run-of-the-mill online marketplace.

Thank you Para!

And I very much appreciate the comments you made in your post prior to last. You're too kind!

I'll take some pics and give it a go.