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Originally posted by Grayguns:

Hi! The SAO PSTR8 versions are finished R&D and scheduled for production. I’ll keep you posted as they progress towards introduction soon. Thanks!

-Bruce

Bruce,
Thanks for taking the time to respond. Looking forward to picking up a pair of the SAO P-STR8s as well as a 8mm DA/SA version, should that come to market.

Mike

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Originally posted by FlaSigUser:
I hope this is the proper place to ask this question to Mr. Gray or associates.
I have been checking your web page for the last 3 months and the P-STR8 flat adjustable trigger has been out of stock. Will they be available in the future or is the EDC trigger kit replace the old P-STR8?

The P22X-ST triggers came back in stock today. Picked up a few, hope I don’t regret not ordering more. Who knows when they’ll sell out and come back in stock again.

Any idea when the dual-stage adjustable curved triggers would come back in stock? Hope the expansion is going well!

I am waiting for the restock of your EDC Straight Optimized Trigger System for a Non-DAK P226 Tacops. Do you have any ETA to share?

Jeremy

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Originally posted by atugong:
I am waiting for the restock of your EDC Straight Optimized Trigger System for a Non-DAK P226 Tacops. Do you have any ETA to share?

Jeremy

Hi Jeremy, it's in the queue but unfortunately I am unable to provide you with an ETA.

Looking at a Grayguns straight trigger for my M1A11. Will the new trigger rest in the same position as current in double action? I do not want to add to the reach. Please advise.

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Originally posted by Jordonc2:
Looking at a Grayguns straight trigger for my M1A11. Will the new trigger rest in the same position as current in double action? I do not want to add to the reach. Please advise.

Give the customer service team a call. Reach may be defined differently for people. The base of the trigger may be at the same point as stock, but since it is a straight trigger the reach may be longer for you coming from a curved trigger.

You may also want to inquire about the EDC SOT with the trigger bar. More expensive but a lot more value/performance.

You also have the option of the curved trigger with dual adjustments for pre and over-travel. Adjustments work the same as the straight.

When it comes to reach on the straight trigger, I'm confident Bruce made it as short as possible to meet the performance and safety requirements.

Any word on HK P2000 short reset trigger systems coming back in stock?

I have the laser-sculpted x-grip module. I contacted Grayguns to see if it were possible to send a TXG grip for sculpting. I was told no. I enquired if Grayguns would be offering the TXG in a sculpted version, but couldn't get a reply.

Anything on the horizon?

They are not set up to take in modules for sculpting, and there are no plans to do that in the future.

As I understand it they will be testing the process on the TGX module.

If you send an email to the customer service team via the website, that will be your best bet for a faster and more detailed reply.

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Originally posted by steve495:
They are not set up to take in modules for sculpting, and there are no plans to do that in the future.

As I understand it they will be testing the process on the TGX module.

If you send an email to the customer service team via the website, that will be your best bet for a faster and more detailed reply.

I did email them, tried a few times, but no response. I think your answer covered it though, Steve. Thanks. I really do like the finished product that Grayguns sells for their "sculpted frame." It's attractive, and has a great grip without snagging.

To follow-up the last, I obtained a TXG laser-sculpted grip from Grayguns; it may be the only one in the wild at the moment. It was a prototype done for them while exploring market interest in making them available, apparently, so no others presently available for sale, so far as I know.

If they do end up selling them, I don't know what their final price will be, but I'll say that I can't imagine why one wouldn't go with the TXG frame and laser sculpted Grayguns treatment, if one intends to go the TXG route.

The TXG frame feels slightly more grippy as it comes from Sig, than the typical X-grip module. The Grayguns sculpted grip capitalizes on that, and it's attractive work.

I just got it prior to heading back into the field, so haven't had a chance to shoot it, but have been doing a lot of shooting with a TXG grip and love it. I've shot quite a bit with their sculpted x-frame grip on the same pistol, and love that, too. A combination of the two is perfect, and after playing with it a bit, couldn't be more pleased.

The gentleman at Grayguns indicated that they hadn't had a lot of interest in the sculpted TXG module yet...but having one in hand now, I can't understand why someone wouldn't want to go that route. I'm very pleased with it, and when I get home, the grip will be my standard for steel matches.

I ordered the P320 competition trigger kit and installed it. I didn't have a lot of time, but found that with the overtravel sleeve installed, the trigger had to be held against the stop with some pressure to release. It seems that there are two choices: turn down the overtravel sleeve, or remove material on the overtravel pad on the trigger (or both), to get a good release.

Anyone have experience with that kit installation, or thoughts?

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:
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I ordered the P320 competition trigger kit and installed it. I didn't have a lot of time, but found that with the overtravel sleeve installed, the trigger had to be held against the stop with some pressure to release. It seems that there are two choices: turn down the overtravel sleeve, or remove material on the overtravel pad on the trigger (or both), to get a good release.

Anyone have experience with that kit installation, or thoughts?

Cool that you got your hands on the sculpted TXG grip!

As for the over-travel sleeve, we do know the fire control units can each be a bit different while still within specification tolerances. For me, the over-travel sleeve's diameter was too large as well. (Granted I only tried it on one of my FCUs.) They did experiment with different sizes - and even different materials - and ended up with the current diameter.

I ended up leaving the sleeve off, as for me the over-travel was not too noticeable. You can check with Customer Service to see if they have something in a smaller diameter, you can leave it off, or you can try to turn it down a bit.

That's what I ended up doing for now; just left the overtravel sleeve off, and I like the pull as is. It might be refined a bit more so far as limiting the overtravel, but it's very good as is, hand I wanted to make sure that the trigger had a positive release without any interference at the end.

It looks like the point of contact with the trigger and overtravel stop is made with extra material, or a bit thicker; I can't tell if that's for strength or to enable material remover to adjust for overtravel.

I do like that the system is designed without the need for overtravel screws that might move or fail.

I also noted that the trigger received with the competition kit is slightly different than the Grayguns trigger that was I already had in the pistol. I'd spoken to someone at Grayguns about that, originally asking if I could order the competition kit without the trigger, as I already had the grayguns trigger in the pistol. I was told no, it's a set.

After receiving the kit, I can see why; the trigger that comes with the kit is different and it should be installed as a set.

Looking forward to getting home and getting some time with the new setup.

Also giving some thought to some other sculpted modules, including the P365. I'm not a big fan of much of the aftermarket stippling or grip carving that goes on out there; many efforts look bad, are too grippy or rough, and don't improve. The Grayguns sculpted grips are a big improvement, looks excellent, and feels better than it looks. It's functional. REALLY pleased with the TXG work.

Just wanted to follow-up: I ended up putting the overtravel sleeve back in, and used a jewlers file to relive the back of the trigger slightly where it contacts the overtravel stop. The feeling dry firing is that it hits the overtravel stop, hesitates, then releases.

In use today at an match, it worked really, really well. No hesitation, perfect overtravel, short reset. Perfect to stage, minimal takeup, but it arrives at a point where you know any more and it will fire: drive the sight and the trigger felt natural, no need for a second thought. It's one thing to dry fire it, another to put it to work, and I was really impressed. Having run the factory combinations, the apex and the grayguns trigger, then the competition trigger kit in the same pistol in the same situations, I'm very impressed with the Grayguns competition trigger. Very well worth the installation.

I ran the Grayguns sculpted TXG grip at separate matches yesterday and today, and had quite a few ask about the source, engraving, etc. Functionally, outstanding, and while I like the factory texture on the TXG grip, I wouldn't hesitate to go with the Grayguns sculpted TXG over the factory. It's perfect. Absolutely love it.

Also really loving the fat guide rod and spring options.

I realize this thread is about new Grayguns products, but I'm delighted enough with the new products that I just wanted to comment and follow up.

On that sculpted TXG, my take is this: if someone is going to invest in the TXG grip, why wouldn't they want the sculpted version? Having both now, I wouldn't get another without the grayguns treatment (assuming they make any more available...hint, hint).

Any estimate as to when we may see the P-Series rowel hammer come to market?

I have a P226 project in the works that I'd like to use one on.

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Originally posted by mcs1564:
Any estimate as to when we may see the P-Series rowel hammer come to market?

I have a P226 project in the works that I'd like to use one on.

Unless the item has been finalized and in production, Grayguns generally does not provide release dates. Plus, some stuff you see might be prototypes for testing and to get a feel for what the market is looking for. For a more direct answer - which might be the same - give them a call.

Just a heads up. It's Dec. 20 at 11:11 a.m. PT and if you head to the Grayguns website today, you'll find they have ONE P320 AGX Scorpion remaining at a great price.

https://grayguns.com/product/s...r-p320-agx-scorpion/

@grayguns,

I know it is easier said than done, but we really, crave the flat trigger for P2000.

Also, do you have any plans (that you can share publicly) about an improved trigger bar?

Thank you for all your great products, I cannot get enough of them.

Howdy! Fantastic question. Since he's on a trip to California, I'll wing an answer for our Gunsmithing Director, Keith Hosey. The P30 straight trigger is his design and project. It has become quite popular. Keith will follow it up with variants to fit the other USP-family models, including your P2000. In addition, we are planning on a full set of upgrades for the entire HK pistol line; nobody would like to see improved trigger bars more than Keith, given the high volume of HK's he and his division works on. Certainly, the factory bars are the single most variable & potentially problematic action component. What else would you like to see from Grayguns? Thank you for your kind support!

-Bruce