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The baby bust and the gender gap

Young women in rich countries are becoming more and more liberal and show less and less interest in children
Alex Berenson
Jan 30, 2024

So much for the maternal instinct.

Buried in a national poll from late 2023 is a stunning finding: American women are much less worried about falling fertility rates than men. Fewer than one in three women said they were concerned about the trend, compared to 43 percent of men.

The data, from the respected American Family Survey, an annual study of 3,000 Americans, adds to a picture emerging globally of two linked trends that may be accelerating the baby bust.

In the last decade, young women in rich countries have moved sharply to the left. Young men have not. In some countries they have become much more conservative. The result is a gap in political and cultural attitudes between the sexes that has become a chasm.

The Financial Times captured the trend in a graphic that has received huge attention, with nearly 25 million views on X since last Friday:

https://twitter.com/jburnmurdo.../1750849189834022932





That gender-ideological difference comes on top of the fact that liberal political attitudes are linked to lower fertility rates, a trend that is also accelerating.

In a 2018 paper, researchers found in the 1970s, the most liberal people in the General Social Survey - a yearly survey of American attitude and behavior - had the most kids.

By the 2010-2014 surveys, the gap had not just closed but reversed. The most conservative people had nearly three children on average, the most liberal under two.

Similarly, last year’s American Family Survey showed a huge gap between Republicans and Democrats over whether “declining fertility is a negative sign for the nation.”

By a 55-15 margin, Republicans agreed. But Democrats were actually more likely to call lower birth rates a positive trend, by a 32-27 margin.

In other words, the move to the left by the young would likely signal lower birth rates even if both genders were going that way.

But the problem now may be even more fundamental.

Women, not men, ultimately control the decision to have kids. If the current political polarization continues, more and more young women may not find any young men they find ideologically acceptable - for marriage or children.

Most marriages are between spouses with similar political ideologies. That trend is also increasing. In the United States, fewer than 4 percent of marriages now occur between Democrats and Republicans.

The convergence of the gender gap and baby bust is particularly obvious in South Korea, because the ideological gap between women and men has widened so steeply and quickly. In addition, Koreans have a strong taboo against out-of-wedlock births. Women essentially cannot have children if they do not marry.

Not coincidentally, South Korea now has by far the lowest birth rate of any major country. South Korean women are now predicted to have about 0.7 children on average, far below the “replacement rate” of 2.1 children needed to keep national populations steady.

Even more stunning, the South Korean birthrate shows no signs of bottoming. And many Korean women appear unconcerned. The Atlantic wrote last year about a South Korean women’s movement called the “four nos” - “no to dating, no to sex with men, no to marriage, and no to childbirth.” As one woman said, her friends “kind of hate men, and they are afraid of them.”

The trend clearly shook the article’s author, a single American woman who is having a child through in vitro fertilization. Near its end, she wrote: After talking with so many thoughtful and kind young people, I mostly felt sad that, a generation from now, there will be fewer like them in their country.



But how to reverse this polarization and its consequences is unclear.

Governments can provide tax credits and other financial incentives to have kids. They can subsidize child care and encourage or require generous parental leave. But if, as in South Korea, women simply dislike men so much they don’t want to have marry them - much less raise families with them - it’s hard to imagine a government policy turning the tide.

What, if anything, can?

https://alexberenson.substack....7n3&utm_medium=email

For those interested in the topic, I did find this old thread:
US birth rate hits 35-year low
https://sigforum.com/eve/forum...180094074#5180094074



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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Very interesting.

Too bad it didn't factor in the unfettered migration that the 3 of 4 countries (US, G, and UK) leaders are enabling. Citizens are getting outbred by migrants. That is going to drastically change the political dynamic, and in a different way than the author is pointing out.



Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity

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There's going to be a whole lot more bitter old cat ladies out there in the future. Frown

I'm glad we had children, they are a ton of work and can be stressful but I wouldn't give that up for anything.

I'm an old guy (51) with 3 young kids, the youngest is 3 and they are keeping me young!


 
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^^^ It's all just a white nationalist far-right conspiracy theory...
Roll Eyes

The Great Replacement (French: Grand Remplacement), also known as replacement theory or great replacement theory, is a white nationalist far-right conspiracy theory espoused by French author Renaud Camus. The original theory states that, with the complicity or cooperation of "replacist" elites, the ethnic French and white European populations at large are being demographically and culturally replaced by non-white peoples—especially from Muslim-majority countries—through mass migration, demographic growth and a drop in the birth rate of white Europeans. Since then, similar claims have been advanced in other national contexts, notably in the United States.
Mainstream scholars have dismissed these claims as rooted in a misunderstanding of demographic statistics and premised upon an unscientific, racist worldview. According to the Encyclopædia Britannica, the Great Replacement "has been widely ridiculed for its blatant absurdity."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Replacement



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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Push complete school choice, and prohibit social media below 18, and Socialism is extinct in a generation.

Socialists have dogs, not children. Deny them the opportunity to steal children, and it will pass from the Earth.
 
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So it’s a choice between either woke American harridan females, or classy imports from Eastern European countries.


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Feminism, birth control/abortion, and promiscuity, are at the root of this problem. Much against the hopes and dreams of the feminazis, men have benefited greatly while women have suffered the most and society/culture is paying the price.


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