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Would you embrace the Metric system in the US?
August 29, 2020, 12:39 AM
sjtillWould you embrace the Metric system in the US?
Like Scoutmaster, I do woodworking, or more accurately, I am finally starting to do woodworking now that I have some free time and a place to do it.
In theory I would prefer to do measurements in metric, but my mid-brain is used to inches and fractions.
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August 29, 2020, 02:32 AM
barndg00I would happily convert measurements to metric. Though 70mph speed limits better stay above 112 mph. Metric systems make sense, imperial doens’t. Plainly, a kg is 1000g, or 100cg. Not 16 oz in a pound, or 12 inches in a foot, or 36 inches in a yard. The imperial system is clearly antiquated and should be relegated to the dustbin. That said, the conversion to metric should not harm the consumer in the transition. 1L of gas should be about $0.66/L.
August 29, 2020, 04:41 AM
MNSIGquote:
Originally posted by jimmy123x:......metric (on bolts and stuff), British Pipe Thread on others, and U.S. on others.
I think plumbing fittings deserve their own special category of stupidity. Beyond the NPT vs BSP thread measurements, our own system can't even decide what "1/2" means. Depends on what you're talking about. Galvanized, copper, rigid PVC, flexible tubing? All different. Surely, the fittings must at least be the same. Oh no! Is that "1/4 inch" on the threaded end of a pipe or a compression fitting?
There are enough metric fasteners our there that I've invested in full sets of sockets for both. That wouldn't bother me. I am probably too old to start thinking in kilometers for a drive, though. Just too deeply ingrained.
August 29, 2020, 04:44 AM
tacfoleyAs I frequently mention, you already DO use the metric system - every time you use money.
August 29, 2020, 06:15 AM
Yellow JacketNo, never.
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henryazquote:
Originally posted by ensigmatic:
Lord how I wish we in the U.S. would get with the program.
Until I spent about 4 years rebuilding an FJ-40, top to bottom, I had little knowledge of, or need for, the metric system. One good thing about that experience, as a tool "collector", I got to acquire an entire roller cabinet full of metric tools.

During those 4 years, I grew to understand and greatly respect the underlying relationships of the metric system. I am great with linear, liquid, and weight measurements, but still not so good on things like force, etc. I still default to lbs/ft when setting torque wrenches, e.g. I think the metric approach to threads is much better than SAE's TPI.
Now that our 2 Toyotas (2003 Sequoia and 2010 Tacoma) are aging, I find myself working more and more with metric tools. Most if not all US vehicles have many metric fasteners. At my age, I do not think I'll see a complete adoption of metric in my lifetime, but I am comfortable working with both. I do believe metric is a more consistent and logical system, and would welcome a change over.
When in doubt, mumble August 29, 2020, 07:02 AM
NavyGuyMetric is slowly creeping into the US. Near everything on our two Toyota's is metric and it seams these days if I hear a measurement represented in metric, I don't freak out and pretty much know how to relate to it. That said, at my age I've got far too many other things to worry about and wouldn't be happy with a full blow metric system adaption.
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senza nomePounds, shillings and pences, please!
August 29, 2020, 07:49 AM
darthfusterI like 9mm, 10mm, 11.43mm
You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier August 29, 2020, 07:53 AM
BeancookerI would happily adapt to the metric system. When I was the manager at Body Bliss (lotion factory) we used the metric system. It was so much simpler and easy to teach to even the most mathematically challenged people. For the most part I would prefer using the metric system.
I would have a slight adjustment period when trying to do woodworking, just because there are certain things that are just engrained in me.
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August 29, 2020, 08:58 AM
dan03833The metric system did not get us to the moon.
August 29, 2020, 09:07 AM
bdylanMultiple systems is working fine for me...I've adapted.
August 29, 2020, 09:13 AM
parabellumOh, we've got yer multiples. You got 19 burfums in a cloval, which is 38 pilaks. Everyone knows 12 gabers equals 7 tirfuts. Simple
August 29, 2020, 09:15 AM
feersum dreadnaughtI like my finances in metric.
I mix and match for work, with mg/kg or ug/L concentrations in reports right next to areas in acres...
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August 29, 2020, 09:23 AM
rchermanjrI would but no need to do it....but the only stipulation is it would have to be ENTIRELY implemented and replace EVERYTHING. Metric is no more difficult than what we have....having to convert back and forth is the pain in ass. Lived in Europe for years and been all around the world...if only dealing with km, liters, centimeters, etc on everything...is just another reference. The problem is having to calculate things as it is mixed usage....then add on what they use in England with stones for weight and really blow your mind. All systems are good and get you to the same place....it is the mixed usage that requires conversion that messes everyone up.
August 29, 2020, 09:34 AM
TigerDorequote:
Originally posted by sns3guppy:
... Whether it means that rulers and yardsticks will be altered in future, I don't know...
What effect will this have on you and Bytes and your measuring contests?
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August 29, 2020, 09:35 AM
Rey HRHWhy not both?
I think the problem is a visual assessment of the metrics.
I am quite comfortable with a yard being approximately a meter. And maybe a foot being 0.3 meters or 30 centimeters. But I drop out at figuring out imagining what an inch is in metrics. I can maybe memorize an inch is 2.54 centimeters but I can't visualize a centimeter. People will continually be having to visualize an inch and converting them into 2.54 centimeters in their heads.
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August 29, 2020, 09:35 AM
parabellumquote:
Originally posted by TigerDore:
quote:
Originally posted by sns3guppy:
... Whether it means that rulers and yardsticks will be altered in future, I don't know...
What effect will this have on you and Bytes and your measuring contests?
Stow that shit
August 29, 2020, 09:38 AM
TigerDoreBad attempt at humor, para. Sorry.
August 29, 2020, 09:41 AM
parabellumTrying to stir shit is not humor. It's stirring shit