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If they make a move on society it is because they are true believers ....


Gee: How common is that? Roll Eyes

Seriously, thanks for your synopsis.

I am now curious about their doctrines and this incident. It’s easy to convince people to engage in suicide missions if they believe, as Muslims do, that it’s their immediate ticket to paradise. Does this group have similar beliefs? If not, is it likely that they hoped to get away and it was only unexpectedly rapid and aggressive response by the police that ended it the was it was?




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If they make a move on society it is because they are true believers ....


Gee: How common is that? Roll Eyes

Seriously, thanks for your synopsis.

I am now curious about their doctrines and this incident. It’s easy to convince people to engage in suicide missions if they believe, as Muslims do, that it’s their immediate ticket to paradise. Does this group have similar beliefs? If not, is it likely that they hoped to get away and it was only unexpectedly rapid and aggressive response by the police that ended it the was it was?


Their beliefs are not based on a heavenly reward. It is revenge based. Whites enslaved us. God said we are authorized to murder and enslave them back. Let's not forget their lecherous perspective on raping white women. By the way, Jesus was black.



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If you're interested in Black Hebrew Israelites, check out Vocab Malone on YouTube. He's also written a short book about them recently.
 
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It's not just the shooters that were Jew haters. It seems like the whole area is filled with Jew haters. Cell phone videos taken during the shoot out are replete with comments about "dem Jews." Da Jews runnin. Dat Jew spot. Da Jews. Da Jews. Along with harassing comments to police trying to do their jobs. And one man yelling at cops to leave the shooters alone.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/...-jewish-supermarket/


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It's not just the shooters that were Jew haters. It seems like the whole area is filled with Jew haters. Cell phone videos taken during the shoot out are replete with comments about "dem Jews." Da Jews runnin. Dat Jew spot. Da Jews. Da Jews. Along with harassing comments to police trying to do their jobs. And one man yelling at cops to leave the shooters alone.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/...-jewish-supermarket/


From traveling in those areas, I’m pretty sure they hate them just as much...it’s a mutual hatred. Different styles though.
 
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Angry racists in search of an identity.



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Has anyone seen photos of the doers?


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Has anyone seen photos of the doers?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...-camera-footage.html


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Has anyone seen photos of the doers?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...-camera-footage.html


Interesting that the type of rifle wasn’t mentioned.
 
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Jersey City Shooting Suspect Has Ties to Black Hate Group, Same Group Taunted Covington Students

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...taunted-cov-n2557865

Police have identified the two suspects killed inside the Jersey City Kosher Supermarket on Tuesday as David Anderson and Francine Graham. Anderson was a follower of the Black Hebrew Israelites, a black supremacist hate group known for its strong antisemitic beliefs. The pair of suspects were also named the prime suspects in the beating death of Michael Rumberger, whose body was found inside the trunk of a car. A group of Black Hebrew Israelites was captured on video in January taunting the Covington High School students with racist and homophobic remarks.

The Jersey City Kosher Supermarket is a popular market among Hasidic Jews in Jersey City and the attack has left the local Hasidic community in mourning. Police have been slow in determining a motive behind the shooting that left six people dead -- including one police officer, three shoppers and the two suspects -- despite the fact that at least one of the suspects made antisemitic posts on social media and the shooters left behind a manifesto in their stolen vehicle. According to The New York Times, the "manifesto-style document ... was rambling and gave no clear motivation for the attack," an official said.

Jersey City Mayor Steve Fulop said surveillance video makes it clear that the suspects targeted the kosher market and characterized the attack as a hate crime committed against Jews.

A group of Black Hebrew Israelites was given national exposure by the mainstream media in January when the black supremacist group began making racist and homophobic comments, as well as threats, to a group of students from the Covington Catholic School in Kentucky.

"You little dirty a** crackers," the Black Hebrew Israelites taunted the kids. "Your day coming. Your day coming."

The abuse towards the Catholic school children continued for more than an hour. The media decided the Catholic school children were the real monsters because one student appeared to "smirk" as a Native American activist approached the group of children while loudly banging on a drum.

Unlike the "motive" behind the Covington boy's so-called smirk, the media are taking their time in determining the motive behind the attack on the Kosher Supermarket that was just committed by a known antisemite with ties to a black nationalist hate group.


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As long ago as the late 70's/early 80's I received counterterrorism and officer safety briefings on the violent black supremacist ideology of certain factions of the Black Hebrew Israelites. I think the Yaweh group in Miami were pretty belligerent but have not heard much of them for years until now.


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Has the group publicly stated that they are non violent and condemn the action yet? That seems standard SOP.




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Can’t find the link now. That Tliab idiot in congress blamed the shooting on white supremacy. Roll Eyes
 
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Can’t find the link now. That Tliab idiot in congress blamed the shooting on white supremacy. Roll Eyes


https://www.washingtonexaminer...-new-jersey-shooting

Rashida Tlaib only member of 'Squad' to weigh in on New Jersey shooting

by Dominick Mastrangelo
December 12, 2019 12:20 PM

Michigan Rep. Rashida Tlaib was the only member of the four-person freshman Democratic mini-caucus self-dubbed "the Squad" to offer comment on what authorities believe may have been a racially-motivated shooting in New Jersey this week.

"This is heartbreaking," Tlaib said in a now-deleted tweet on Thursday morning. "White Supremacy kills."

(link has an image of her tweet)

On Tuesday, 47-year-old David Anderson and 50-year-old Francine Grahm, who are both black, shot and killed a police officer in a cemetery in Jersey City. They later fled the scene and traveled to a kosher market and opened fire, killing three more people before they were shot dead by police.

Police say they believe the couple targeted the store, which is owned by a Jewish family. At least one of the shooters had also posted anti-Semitic messages online. Prosecutors have tied them to the Black Hebrew Israelites, which has been labeled as a hate group.

None of the three other members of "the Squad" — Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, and Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts — have tweeted about the shooting as of Thursday afternoon.

The Washington Examiner has contacted each of the three members' offices for comment on the incident.
 
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None of the three other members of "the Squad" — Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, and Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts — have tweeted about the shooting as of Thursday afternoon.

Sometimes saying nothing is the best thing to do.
 
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None of the three other members of "the Squad" — Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, and Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts — have tweeted about the shooting as of Thursday afternoon.

Sometimes saying nothing is the best thing to do.


“Better to keep one’s mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.”
But opening their mouths is what politicians do more than anything else, so the parable of the frog and the scorpion also comes to mind.




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First I've read about weapons:

Anderson was armed with an “AR-15-style” gun when he entered the deli, and Graham was carrying a 12-gauge Mossberg shotgun. Officers also found a 9 mm Ruger and a 9 mm Glock in the shop. In the van, they found a 22-caliber Ruger Mark IV equipped with a “homemade” silencer and device to collect spent casings.

Grewal said two of the guns — the shotgun and the 22-caliber Ruger — were purchased by Graham in Ohio in 2018.


Complete article:

https://www.politico.com/state...m-hate-crime-1231535
 
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Arrest in Jersey City shooting after man's phone number found in shooter's pocket

More of that 'white supremacy', huh, Rashida Tlaib? Roll Eyes
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A New Jersey man was arrested Saturday in connection with the deadly shooting in Jersey City last week that left four people dead — after investigators found his phone number tucked in the pocket of one of the two gunmen who opened fire on the Jewish market.

Ahmed A-Hady, 35, of Keyport, was taken into custody by FBI agents and charged with possessing a firearm while being a previously convicted felon, the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of New Jersey said in a news release.
 
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Ben Shapiro called it the 1st day
It was a hate crime, but since it wasn't perpetrated by white conservatives it wouldn't last 24 hours on the news channels


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This story all but disappeared from the news.


Well yeah, it wasn't a white supremacist. This isn't a surprise.

By the way, if you go back and read the news from the day it happened, you'll notice there was no description of the suspect anywhere. That was how I figured the bad guy was black.
 
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