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The jury in Roger Stone's criminal trial ended its first day of deliberations Thursday without reaching a verdict on the longtime Trump associate's charges of obstruction, lying to Congress and witness tampering.

One of Stone's attorneys told reporters outside the courtroom at around 5 p.m. that the proceedings would resume Friday morning.

The jury had begun deliberating at around 10:30 a.m. They sent two notes to the judge in the afternoon asking about one of the counts of making false statements.

The charges, brought by the former special counsel Robert Mueller in January, allege that Stone lied to the House Intelligence Committee about his communications with the Trump campaign and his efforts to establish a backchannel with WikiLeaks as it was releasing damaging information about then-presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee in 2016.

Stone had claimed publicly — and according to prosecutors, privately to the Trump campaign — that he had an intermediary with WikiLeaks and its head, Julian Assange.

It's unclear which way the jury might be leaning. After Judge Amy Berman Jackson brought the jurors in to reread them one of the charges, she remarked that at least some of them appeared "frustrated."

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The case against Stone is a pure Mueller hit job. To me Stone is a bit of a loud mouth who pretends to be important. But he didn't deserve to be charged and have the riot squad invade his home at dawn. With CNN cameras rolling.

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The jury in Roger Stone's criminal trial ended its first day of deliberations Thursday without reaching a verdict on the longtime Trump associate's charges of obstruction, lying to Congress and witness tampering.

One of Stone's attorneys told reporters outside the courtroom at around 5 p.m. that the proceedings would resume Friday morning.

The jury had begun deliberating at around 10:30 a.m. They sent two notes to the judge in the afternoon asking about one of the counts of making false statements.

The charges, brought by the former special counsel Robert Mueller in January, allege that Stone lied to the House Intelligence Committee about his communications with the Trump campaign and his efforts to establish a backchannel with WikiLeaks as it was releasing damaging information about then-presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee in 2016.

Stone had claimed publicly — and according to prosecutors, privately to the Trump campaign — that he had an intermediary with WikiLeaks and its head, Julian Assange.

It's unclear which way the jury might be leaning. After Judge Amy Berman Jackson brought the jurors in to reread them one of the charges, she remarked that at least some of them appeared "frustrated."

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The case against Stone is a pure Mueller hit job. To me Stone is a bit of a loud mouth who pretends to be important. But he didn't deserve to be charged and have the riot squad invade his home at dawn. With CNN cameras rolling.


TBH, Roger Stone is a liability.
 
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Lying to liars.
Should be interesting.


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The jury in Roger Stone's criminal trial ended its first day of deliberations Thursday without reaching a verdict on the longtime Trump associate's charges of obstruction, lying to Congress and witness tampering.

One of Stone's attorneys told reporters outside the courtroom at around 5 p.m. that the proceedings would resume Friday morning.

The jury had begun deliberating at around 10:30 a.m. They sent two notes to the judge in the afternoon asking about one of the counts of making false statements.

The charges, brought by the former special counsel Robert Mueller in January, allege that Stone lied to the House Intelligence Committee about his communications with the Trump campaign and his efforts to establish a backchannel with WikiLeaks as it was releasing damaging information about then-presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee in 2016.

Stone had claimed publicly — and according to prosecutors, privately to the Trump campaign — that he had an intermediary with WikiLeaks and its head, Julian Assange.

It's unclear which way the jury might be leaning. After Judge Amy Berman Jackson brought the jurors in to reread them one of the charges, she remarked that at least some of them appeared "frustrated."

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The case against Stone is a pure Mueller hit job. To me Stone is a bit of a loud mouth who pretends to be important. But he didn't deserve to be charged and have the riot squad invade his home at dawn. With CNN cameras rolling.




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Stone, a political provocateur, was found guilty of all seven counts brought by the Justice Department, a victory for special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation.

Stone was found guilty on five counts of lying to Congress, one of witness tampering, and one of obstructing a Congressional committee proceeding.

According to prosecutors, Stone failed to turn over documents to Congress in 2017, showing he had sought to reach WikiLeaks the previous year, and lied about five facts, obscuring his attempt to use intermediaries to get information that could help then-candidate Trump in the election against Hillary Clinton.

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Mueller gets another scalp
 
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I agree, Mr. President.



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keep in mind that like so many of the other "convictions", there was no "crime" until the Mueller investigation.

The Mueller investigation is going to be shown to have had no reasonable basis to have even started.

And of course the Mueller investigation found "no credible and substantial evidence" of any Russia / Trump campaign coordination/collusion.

And because of that investigation coup attempt, people have been convicted of crimes. Crimes that only existed because of the Mueller coup attempt.

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Following a week-long trial a federal jury in Washington, D.C., has convicted Roger Stone, 67, on five felony counts of lying to investigators, one of obstructing a congressional probe and one of witness tampering. Sentencing will be February 6th, 2020.

Judge Berman Jackson has kept the gag order on Roger Stone barring him from discussing his conviction until he is remanded to federal prison next year .

Judge Jackson - Obama appointee
DC jury
 
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Judge Berman Jackson has kept the gag order on Roger Stone barring him from discussing his conviction until he is remanded to federal prison next year .

I don't understand this.
When and how did he lose his 1st amendment right to speak?



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I'm sure Stone's looking at an appeal. If so, the court would likely know about it.
 
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These we all process crimes nothing to do with the President... he became collateral damage.


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Lying to Congress? Isn't that where liars go?
 
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These we all process crimes nothing to do with the President... he became collateral damage.


Yes...a deep state message to anyone who aligns himself with the President.
 
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Stone needs to appeal the convictions, deliberately dragging that process out past Election Day 2020.

Once inaugurated in 2021, President Trump can pardon Stone and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

And should, God forgive, President Trump not be reflected, he can issue Stone s pardon before he leaves office.

Either way (appeal, pardon) Stone won't be turned against PDJT.

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Star Witness At Roger Stone Trial Says He Feels ‘Horrible’ About Guilty Verdict

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The government’s star witness in the trial against Roger Stone said he feels “horrible” that the longtime Trump confidant was convicted in federal court Friday.

“I hate to see the guy go to jail because of me,” Randy Credico told Yahoo! News’s Michael Isikoff moments after a jury in Washington, D.C., convicted Stone on seven separate felony charges.

“I feel horrible that this happened. This is not a day to rejoice.”

Credico, a left-wing radio host, testified earlier in November about his interactions with Stone during the 2016 presidential campaign, as well as in 2017 and 2018 regarding the House Intelligence Committee’s investigation into Russian meddling in the election.

Stone was convicted on five counts of making false statements to the House panel in September 2017. He was also convicted on an obstruction charge, and a witness tampering related to Credico.

Prosecutors said Stone threatened Credico to prevent him from cooperating with House investigators as well as the special counsel’s team.

They pointed to text messages that Stone sent Credico pressuring him to plead the Fifth in order to avoid testifying to Congress. Prosecutors also cited a text message that Stone sent Credico on April 9, 2018, in which he said he would “take that dog away from you” — a reference to Credico’s 12-year-old therapy dog, Bianca.

Credico testified that he did not perceive Stone’s remarks about his dog as a threat, and that he knew Stone as a “dog lover.”

“I know he wouldn’t have ever touched that dog. It was hyperbole by him,” Credico testified. He also said Stone was one many associates, including his attorneys, who urged him to plead the Fifth.

Credico disputed Stone’s claims that he was a back-channel to WikiLeaks. Stone told House investigators that Credico was his source for tips about WikiLeaks’ plans to release information damaging to the Clinton campaign.

Credico vehemently denied the claim, but Stone released text messages Nov. 14, 2018, that showed that Credico indicated he had insight into WikiLeaks’ plans.

“Hillary’s campaign will die this week,” he wrote Oct. 1, 2017, days before WikiLeaks began releasing emails stolen from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta.

Two days later, Credico provided other insight into WikiLeaks’ activities and asked Stone to “please leave my name out of it.”

“Off the Record Hillary and her people are doing a full-court press they keep Assange from making the next dump,” he wrote, adding, “That’s all I can tell you on this line.”

Credico also told Stone that he knew of the plans because “I’m best friends with [Assange’s] lawyer and leave it at that and leave it alone.”

Credico testified Nov. 8 that he is best friends with Margaret Kunstler, who served as a lawyer for WikiLeaks.

Credico has been reluctant to speak publicly about his links to Kunstler. He told Isikoff, the Yahoo! reporter, on April 13, 2018, that he did not know any of Assange’s U.S.-based lawyers. Credico has also acknowledged in interviews that he fed Isikoff with “disinformation” for a book he co-wrote about the Russia collusion investigation with David Corn, of Mother Jones.

“I put together phony emails, gave it to them. I did all this stuff, and he’s going to put it in his book. I can’t wait,” Credico said of Isikoff in an interview Feb. 13, 2018.


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I only wish I could have been on that jury.


 
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What an absolute distortion of justice.


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The guy can litterly spend the next 50 years in jail because the govt said that he lied to them. Let that sink in.

The land of the free, home of the brave, is about to send a man to prison for 50 years because they said he lied.

Lets gets the boogoo started. This country needs refreshing.


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The guy can litterly spend the next 50 years in jail because the govt said that he lied to them. Let that sink in.

The land of the free, home of the brave, is about to send a man to prison for 50 years because they said he lied.

Lets gets the boogoo started. This country needs refreshing.


And yet the government lies to us every single day. Roger Stone lied to Congress they said? Well, Adam Schiff can't seem to go more than ten minutes while leading a congressional hearing even without lying to the American public.

I'm disgusted by what they've done today to Roger Stone.


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Amy Berman Jackson

That judge is an activist appointee (during the BHO regime-surprise!) that needs to run out of town on a rail.

https://www.statedepartmentwat...eached-and-indicted/

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https://www.newstarget.com/201...anafort-in-jail.html

https://frankreport.com/2019/0...nd-family-gag-order/


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Let it stand for now because Brennan lied to congress, McCabe also lied to congress.

Convict and sentence those 2 while we're upholding the law.


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