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. edited again. The below is an intro to a full opinion piece. I don't subscribe so I can't open it but the summary is laugh riot enough.
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|nytimes.com


Read more from Opinion
August 5, 2021
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By Max Strasser
India’s Constitution has been amended more than 100 times in its 71-year life span. France’s Constitution has been updated about once every two years since it was adopted in 1958. The United States Constitution, on the other hand, has only seen 27 amendments since it was ratified in 1788 — and 10 of those came three years later in the Bill of Rights.

Americans love their Constitution. But is this stability proof that our Constitution is timeless — or just unresponsive?

That’s the subject of an essay by my colleague Jesse Wegman, a member of the Times editorial board. Marking 50 years since the last meaningful amendment gave 18-year-olds the right to vote, Jesse writes: “This half-century drought is all the more distressing in a time of intense social and political turmoil, with demands from both the left and the right for large-scale reforms of the American system of government.”

The problem is that the U.S. Constitution is difficult to amend. Doing so requires, as one scholar put it to Jesse, “rolling supermajorities across the country.” That’s how the founders designed it. Sort of. What they didn’t seem to anticipate was a country as polarized along partisan lines as America is today.

It’s hard to imagine big changes to the Constitution these days, just as it’s hard to imagine big changes to America more generally. But spurring a bit of imagination is what we want to do this summer in Times Opinion’s series Snap Out of It, America!

As part of that project, we asked seven scholars to weigh in with ideas for a 28th Amendment. One suggests making international law a basis for American law; another wants to extend the rights of personhood to the unborn; another proposes guaranteeing a right to labor organizing.

You may not like all of these ideas. You may not like any of them. But we hope that by offering suggestions we can open up — as Jesse also aims to do in his piece — a conversation about what may be possible.

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Your link takes me to my Gmail account.
 
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Your link takes me to my Gmail account.
Me too



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Your link takes me to my Gmail account.
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I'm reading your mail now Big Grin
Oh, if you could check mine while you’re at it. Standard replies. No promises. Thanks.
 
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&!# Eek maybe after the inner webs been around for awhile I’ll figure it out. If your on my email and a guy named Bruno sez Mario can’t wait just ignore it checks in the mail


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Oh, if you could check mine while you’re at it. Standard replies. No promises. Thanks.
Just imagine if I were actually as funny as I think I am. Big Grin
 
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. Blew the set up big time. thanks for dropping by, I'll try again after remedial Sig Forum Instruction.


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Wait a minute, I was still reading emails...
 
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Wait a minute, I was still reading emails...


Nah, the only one you missed was the one from Trexi LeSache and she's not as enteresting as she sounds, really...seriously...honest.


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Reminder me of what Tom Jefferson wrote:

“ Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.“



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I was once sitting in with a Board of Directors of a fairly large Labor group organization and they had just hired a new Director. And he told them the first thing they needed to do was re-write the organizations bi-laws because every time they met they spent most of their time adding something to the existing bi-laws to fix a problem. Do it right the first time and you don't have to spend all your time trying to fix mistakes.... our founders came close to that.... it's just now various idiots spend their time trying to re-enterprit what they really meant... by things such as 'shall not be infringed' & 'the right of the people."


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Hubris.

What is causing these scholars to miss the mark is the assumption that adding to our constitution would somehow refine it.

The Jefferson quote above is exactly right.


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The problem is that the U.S. Constitution is difficult to amend.

No... the problem is that it has been ignored and misinterpreted.

The national (federal) government has been allowed to grow bigger and more powerful than intended because the 9th and 10th amendments have been ignored. The federal government has seized power never intended through misinterpretations of "regulate interstate commerce" and "general welfare". The 16th and 17th amendments were a mistake. They added yet more power to the federal government at the expense of the several States.

The problem isn't that it's too hard to amend but that the Founder's intent that federal powers be few and defined but that States powers be broad has been completely reversed.

https://rootsofliberty.org/the...are-few-and-defined/

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The fact that our Constitution doesn't need much tinkering with is a feature, not a bug but these leftists don't understand that. You have to understand that the vast majority of them would happily vote to see it completely eliminated and rewritten.


 
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NYFT on amending the Constitution


NYFT = Numerous Yahoos Forgoing Thought?
 
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Wait a minute, I was still reading emails...


I predict endless hours using his account to harass scammers from Bangladesh, India, Nigeria, and Pakistan.





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Nattering Yankees Fellating Themselves?

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NYFT on amending the Constitution


NYFT = Numerous Yahoos Forgoing Thought?


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Wait a minute, I was still reading emails...


I predict endless hours using his account to harass scammers from Bangladesh, India, Nigeria, and Pakistan.


yeah, like that's new. Frown


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One of the things that struck me about the piece was the smug self-satisfaction of the writer(s) of having identified the problem as well as the solution.

I recall too, the comment by the late and unlamented RBG where she said that if she was asked for advice on a new constitution she wouldn't use the U. S. Constitution but something more oriented to today like South Africa's.


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The USSR had a great constitution too. And they paid about as much attention to it as Biden and his crowd does to ours.


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