Given that he is generally well spoken unlike Biden, and unfortunately Donald Trump, along with the fact he's "presentable", if he somehow ended up at the top of the democrat ticket do you think he'd win?

My own opinion is I don't know how he could get on the ticket but if somehow it happened I think he would have broad support other than from the far left of his party, independents, and many Republicans as well, and yes would win. He's been in private business (he and I used to butt heads in one he was in), a State senator, successful two term Governor of a State that changed from blue to red, and now US senator. The press would support him, or at least not be continuously bashing him. He does have a few skeletons in the closet but nothing like Obama or Biden.

Or given that he's one of only two democrats who are holding up the "Spending Bill"(link below) has he become toxic to the party?

Just wondering what others here think?


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Given that he is generally well spoken unlike Biden, and unfortunately Donald Trump, along with the fact he's "presentable", if he somehow ended up at the top of the democrat ticket do you think he'd win?

Impossible.
Not Lib enough for a Dem and not conservative enough for a Repub.
DJT would trounce him handily anyway.

If you are thinking he would steal from the middle on both sides just understand that the uber left radicals and the solid right are going different directions.
Trump we FINALLY had someone that did not cater to compromise (where the R's would be on the short side 99% of the time) and focused in a solid direction.
It is why SOOO many love him (and hate him too and because he gets things done).
The more people understand him the more they support him.

Certainly not lib enough for the current dem leaders, and many in the party, but aligns well with a lot of Americans.

I seriously doubt Trump would trounce him, even beat him. Heck Trump "barely" beat crooked Hillary who was a horrible and corrupt candidate. But thankfully Trump won't have to run against him and Trump likely could beat Biden/ Camela in 3 years. But it won't be Biden and maybe not even Camela....

In any case, he's saved us from some of their most radical ideas recently and been one of the few Democrats willing to speak up against the most loony of their proposals.
I wish he was the Vice-President today so in the event of Biden's checking out for any reason, we'd have at least something to look forward to.
Actually, Nancy Pelosi's beginning to look like a better option to the two at the top of the food chain right now.
That's a scary thought.

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Originally posted by 220-9er:

....Actually, Nancy Pelosi's beginning to look like a better option to the two at the top of the food chain right now.
That's a scary thought.

It honestly is!

No. He is too reasonable.

I actually believe he is electable.

I think that the party is going to have to continue to eat itself before he’s able to be nominated. As far as rank and file voters go, I think they would vote for him. Yeah, the fringe wouldn’t like him, but I think he would be a candidate that democrats would vote for in a primary.

To me, it’s not that he’s not electable, it’s the DNC wouldn’t find him extreme enough to allow him the nomination. Basically, they would give him a Bernie no matter how well he does in debates or primaries.

He couldn't clear the primaries.

Manchin actually is what the left said Biden was.

A moderate.

He seems like a reasonable, principled man, who has the backbone to stand there and do what he thinks is right, even when he's taking heat for it from everyone around him, including his own side. I respect that. He also trends towards the middle away from the extremes, which most of the time is a good thing. I'd vote for him before I would some Republicans, and pretty much any other Dem these days. I doubt I'm the only one who feels that way.

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I doubt I'm the only one who feels that way.

You are not.

But, sadly, some others are right: He's insufficiently "progressive" for today's totally-bonkers Democrat Party.

The Dems actually had some not-too-crazy candidates in the past two Presidential election cycles. The Dems, being what they are nowadays, sunk them in the primaries.

I agree with jljones: The party's going to have to hit bottom before it can recover. Sadly, it's not even close to that yet

Absolutely ZERO chance of him ever getting near a democratic nomination.

He would have to leave the party to have a shot at running a national campaign.

No way he could even come close in a dem primary.

He might actually be able to win a general election, but there's no way I hell he could win the Dem nomination.

West Virginia is a crazy state politically.

they MASSIVELY destroy national (D) candidates for President -- but routinely vote in other (D) politicians due to heavy union influence.

But its the D party which destroyed the coal industry and is directly responsible for WV's economic state.

My wife is from there so I follow their politics a little.

But it's a rural / hunting state so their 2A laws are quite good. It's just an odd beast politically.

Manchin kinda reflects that. In some ways very conservative for a Dem (hell I'd say quite a bit better than some of the Rinos we have seen...). But also heavily D in the 'pro-union' mold.

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Kentucky was largely that way until about 10 years ago. All of your local offices were democrat. Now, a (D) by your name means you are jobless. (Except in rare cases)

Another middle road candidate that wasn’t left enough the dems sank was Tulsi Gabbard
While her 2A stance sucks, otherwise was pretty moderate and add youth good looks female and well spoken, and they could of had a viable candidate

Manchin reminds me of Dems of yesteryear before they went lemming-like over the edge of Leftism.

Google Manchin’e name. His image in the leftist MSM will tell you everything you need to know about his chances. He has been a massive thorn in the democrats side because he is a rational, moderate politician and the left hates him for it.

It's really a shame that party is run by the Schumer, Cortez, and Polosi types. Joe is frequently approached to switch party but the country would be better served if he and a few others can move the D agenda back toward normal.

He wouldn’t win his home state against Trump…not even close
The southern half of WV is not overly fond of him anyway, he is much stronger in the north