Time to upgrade the safe.

Looking at a colonial 30.

I’m going to have this in my garage. I will bolt it to the concrete floor and it will have a dehumidifier rod.

Anyone have any experience with these?

Thanks as always.

Space it off the floor with hockey pucks, or any method of a break so the concrete doesn't transmit into the safe.

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Originally posted by arcwelder76:
Space it off the floor with hockey pucks, or any method of a break so the concrete doesn't transmit into the safe.

Thank you for that. I am having the professionals do the actual install but want this info.

Space is a catch 22. reduces (maybe) moisture issues, but adds a simple leverage point to pry...

I used a horse stall mat under mine. No space to pry plus a moisture barrier.

I am interested in this as well as I have an upgrade on the way. Mine will be in the garage on concrete but the space is heated/cooled 24/7. Does that make any difference?

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I used a horse stall mat under mine. No space to pry plus a moisture barrier.

This is what I usually suggest, although it's not always available nearby. In addition to preventing a pry point and acting as a moisture barrier, it also allows you to bolt the safe down tightly without deforming the bottom of the safe.

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Originally posted by a1abdj:

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I used a horse stall mat under mine. No space to pry plus a moisture barrier.

This is what I usually suggest, although it's not always available nearby. In addition to preventing a pry point and acting as a moisture barrier, it also allows you to bolt the safe down tightly without deforming the bottom of the safe.

And since it is in the garage no space for trash and critters to accumulate.

My safe company used 3/8" thick shims that I think people normally use for shimming/ mounting exterior doors. They're a hard plastic and were 1-2" wide and a strip that they cut into pieces. I have had my safe in my garage in South Florida (high humidity) for 5 years now with a humidity rod and no ill effects.

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Originally posted by a1abdj:

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I used a horse stall mat under mine. No space to pry plus a moisture barrier.

This is what I usually suggest, although it's not always available nearby. In addition to preventing a pry point and acting as a moisture barrier, it also allows you to bolt the safe down tightly without deforming the bottom of the safe.

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Yep. I did as you suggested. It's worked out nicely. Thanks again for your advice.

If this is a Liberty Colonial 30, I purchased mine with a Light and Heat bar kit. I love my safe.
I had the store I purchased from install and it was worth every penny.

Also some thing I was told and it's true. Buy bigger than you need, it fills up fast.

I put the safes on pressure treated 4 x 4's .
Safes are in the basement ==in case the hot water heater goes. Cheap flood insurance.
The extra height allows me to look in the safe at eye level.

I sat my safe on a appropriate size square of locking laminate flooring.

I laid down a frame of flat 2x4s. Around the perimeter and one down the middle. Used pressure treated just in case. Used 1" PVC pieces to roll it across the garage, up a 6" step and into position. I was amazed at how easily I could move the safe by myself. I think it was 1200lbs. The only hard part was tilting it back and pushing it so I could get it up the step.

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Originally posted by a1abdj:

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I used a horse stall mat under mine. No space to pry plus a moisture barrier.

This is what I usually suggest, although it's not always available nearby. In addition to preventing a pry point and acting as a moisture barrier, it also allows you to bolt the safe down tightly without deforming the bottom of the safe.

Listen to this guy. He’s our resident safe expert.

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Originally posted by bearstarr:
If this is a Liberty Colonial 30, I purchased mine with a Light and Heat bar kit. I love my safe.
I had the store I purchased from install and it was worth every penny.

Also some thing I was told and it's true. Buy bigger than you need, it fills up fast.

This is exactly what it is. Red with a tan interior. Same accessories as you did as well.

Thanks for the advice. I want to get a thin layer of plastic. Will go to Home Depot soon. Should it it installed next week!

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I put the safes on pressure treated 4 x 4's

unless you took some other precautions this will not turn out well. Modern ACQ pressure treated lumber eats steel. even coated steel.
I'd get some form of barrier in there and make sure you aren't using steel bolts as well.