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A bit shocking this is coming from CNN. Clip shows 3 statements by high ranking democrats to be false.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/pol...-fact-check-orig.cnn
 
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Must be thinking they can widen their audience by actually reporting facts from time to time. Doubtful.
 
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Kudos to CNN & Jake Trapper! "You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts". Jake did, however, perpetuate the myth that one may purchase a gun at a gun show without a background check. He actually said (paraphrase) "(without a UNIVERSAL background check) gun shows", but the anti's don't know the difference.
 
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Kudos to CNN & Jake Trapper! "You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts". Jake did, however, perpetuate the myth that one may purchase a gun at a gun show without a background check. He actually said (paraphrase) "(without a UNIVERSAL background check) gun shows", but the anti's don't know the difference.


He also said on the internet, while technically true one can buy it, they can't take possession without a background check.



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It is unusual and refreshing to have something like that happen. The coverage of those claims was quite good, actually.

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That was an imposter wearing a Jake Tapper mask.
 
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Kudos to CNN & Jake Trapper! "You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts". Jake did, however, perpetuate the myth that one may purchase a gun at a gun show without a background check. He actually said (paraphrase) "(without a UNIVERSAL background check) gun shows", but the anti's don't know the difference.


But aren't there also private sellers at certain gun shows? If so, can't one buy a firearm from a private seller and not have to go through a background check?


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Kudos to CNN & Jake Trapper! "You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts". Jake did, however, perpetuate the myth that one may purchase a gun at a gun show without a background check. He actually said (paraphrase) "(without a UNIVERSAL background check) gun shows", but the anti's don't know the difference.


But aren't there also private sellers at certain gun shows? If so, can't one buy a firearm from a private seller and not have to go through a background check?



When I lived in Kentucky this was possible, I suspect it still is. Not sure about here in South Carolina, but I imagine it’s the same.
 
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Kudos to CNN & Jake Trapper! "You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts". Jake did, however, perpetuate the myth that one may purchase a gun at a gun show without a background check. He actually said (paraphrase) "(without a UNIVERSAL background check) gun shows", but the anti's don't know the difference.


But aren't there also private sellers at certain gun shows? If so, can't one buy a firearm from a private seller and not have to go through a background check?


disclaimer: I have never been to a gun show.

Yeah, that's what I hear; private sellers. Don't even need a gun show for private sales, though. My point is this "private sales at gun shows" qualifier is never stated by the anti organizations or MSM. They just say "you can buy a gun at a gun show without a background check".
 
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They just say "you can buy a gun at a gun show without a background check".


Well, on its face that's true. Just like how I can sell a gun to my neighbor in my driveway without a background check, I can sell the same gun to the same neighbor at a gun show without a background check. There's no conspiracy there. The myth that you're referring to is the false belief that there is a "gun show loophole." There is no loophole. There is simply the law.

It would be way too much to ask Tapper to go into the weeds on that though, certainly, and clarify it for the folks watching his show who are ignorant on such things.


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I can sell a gun to my neighbor in my driveway without a background check, I can sell the same gun to the same neighbor at a gun show without a background check.



Exactly!
While I have not attended a Gun Show in three or four years due to their decline in quality, when I did go, I would estimate that as many or more private transactions took place in the parking lot as did in the show room.
 
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The loophole isn't a gun show loophole. It is simply that background checks are only required when dealing with a licensed seller, ie retailer.

Better said, a private individual can sell or gift a gun to another individual without a background check (unless the transaction is out of state).

The Dems would do themselves a favor if they stopped talking about gun shows, and simply pointed out this fact.
 
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Kudos to CNN & Jake Trapper! "You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts". Jake did, however, perpetuate the myth that one may purchase a gun at a gun show without a background check. He actually said (paraphrase) "(without a UNIVERSAL background check) gun shows", but the anti's don't know the difference.


He also said on the internet, while technically true one can buy it, they can't take possession without a background check.
Yeah, ole Jakey stepped on his [you know what] with these bogus comments. Seems even the liberal doing the fact checking of other liberals can't get it right. An easy and accurate statement this nitwit could have used goes like this. "Someone 'might' be able to buy a gun at a gun show or off the internet without a background check, but doing so is illegal under laws that have been in place for many, many, years." Even Tapper and his huge CNN news organization couldn't get this simple fact right.


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I can sell a gun to my neighbor in my driveway without a background check, I can sell the same gun to the same neighbor at a gun show without a background check.



Exactly!
While I have not attended a Gun Show in three or four years due to their decline in quality, when I did go, I would estimate that as many or more private transactions took place in the parking lot as did in the show room.
Those types of sales aren't the problem. We don't even have a number to put on the volume of 'Straw' purchases that happen every year. And the last time I checked, those have been illegal forever.


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I can sell the same gun to the same neighbor at a gun show without a background check.


not in Oregon the last decade or so thanks to efforts that included a recently departed Senator and unnamed financial backer pushing a state wide vote.

The LEOs do have an eye out for such transactions as well as the gun show managers to curb such. So I've been told. There are gun show FFL transfer stations available for such private sellers making transfers.


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Kudos to CNN & Jake Trapper! "You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts". Jake did, however, perpetuate the myth that one may purchase a gun at a gun show without a background check. He actually said (paraphrase) "(without a UNIVERSAL background check) gun shows", but the anti's don't know the difference.


He also said on the internet, while technically true one can buy it, they can't take possession without a background check.
If one buys a gun from a licensed dealer at a gun show, a background check will be made; if one buys from an individual owner who has rented a table, no check is required by the Feds--individual states may have such a requirement, or the show, itself, but Texas does not have one.

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Build credibility to legitimize a bigger lie.



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Build credibility to legitimize a bigger lie.

Agreed. If a leftist appears to be agreeing with you, it is only to stab you in the back at another time because you've dropped your guard slightly.




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Decent segment...but all I could think of was this scene from a film classic while I was watching it...



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I happy to see a step in the right direction, however I remain suspicious because it did not go nearly far enough. We find factual errors in nearly every press report or legislative proposal on the left under the guise of "common sense".

When new gun control becomes a conversation in any daily encounter I have little patience for the folks who only believe the rhetoric and clearly know very little else. They ignore inconvenient facts. Deliberate ignorance and bias in the press earns the majority of the blame.


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