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Can U drop Bombs @ full speed or close to it?

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November 13, 2017, 11:39 AM
SBrooks
Can U drop Bombs @ full speed or close to it?
? what about launching missles ? Or do they have to slow down significantly to drop them ?


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SBrooks
November 13, 2017, 11:40 AM
BamaJeepster
If I eat Taco Bell, full speed. Otherwise I have to slow down!



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November 13, 2017, 11:41 AM
RHINOWSO
Like all things in life, "it depends".

Or in the case of Taco Bell, it helps if you WEAR Depends.

Razz
November 13, 2017, 11:43 AM
SBrooks
So - if pylon carried, I guess there is a top speed they want you to adhere to while carrying. Can you drop at that same speed ?


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SBrooks
November 13, 2017, 11:43 AM
SBrooks
If not allowed to discuss - just say so, and I'll drop it.


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SBrooks
November 13, 2017, 11:46 AM
RHINOWSO
The answer "It depends" still stands and is the best I can do for you.

Even the term "Full Speed" depends on a number of factors.

Oh, you can discuss it, but it's too broad a discussion - but in general yes, there are limits to all external stores aircraft carry, to include use limitations.

Every weapon configuration is different - one may think of a bomb as a bomb, but they all have different 'setups', like your Taco Bell Gordita Crunch - do you want hot sauce or mild? Cheese or no? How about Sour Cream?
November 13, 2017, 11:56 AM
sigmonkey
quote:
Originally posted by SBrooks:
? what about launching missles ? Or do they have to slow down significantly to drop them ?


Yes and no.

Some munitions are designed to be released at certain lower speeds and some at extremely high speeds.

It depends on the platform, the weapon, the mission and other factors.

There are free-fall (gravity bombs), retarded munitions, that use fins, drogue chute, streamers or parachutes, there are power assisted standoff bombs, and canister release devices that can release at high speed then slow before opening and dispersing.

Most A2A and many A2G missiles can be fired from high speeds and above Mach.


Some of the issues are proper separation from the platform and stability of flight/glide away from the platform before firing (jettison missiles), and to a degree (but less rare) missiles released from rails.

For example, the Maverick (AGM-65x) was designed to be launched below Mach. We did some testing at Eglin above Mach, but as far as I know (from more than 25 years ago) it was limited to testing. While we did a test of the AIM-120 (AMRAAM) that we "uptuned" engines on an F-15 to 106% in order to release four AIM-120s simultaneously at four different targets at different altitudes, different flight paths, some head on, side attack, and flying away above Mach in a "threat level", various and multiple SOJ (Soviet Offensive Jammers) and other suppression with the F-15 above Mach 2.5.

All four targets were effectively "killed".




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November 13, 2017, 12:03 PM
SBrooks
thank you very much Monkey.


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SBrooks
November 13, 2017, 12:19 PM
craglawnmanor
quote:
Originally posted by SBrooks:
If not allowed to discuss - just say so, and I'll drop it.



I see what you did there!! Wink


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November 13, 2017, 12:19 PM
46and2
quote:
retarded munitions

That guy was in my unit.
November 13, 2017, 12:30 PM
RHINOWSO
quote:
Originally posted by 46and2:
quote:
retarded munitions

That guy was in my unit.
I think one is issued to every unit. Big Grin
November 13, 2017, 12:36 PM
navyshooter
quote:
Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
quote:
Originally posted by 46and2:
quote:
retarded munitions

That guy was in my unit.
I think one is issued to every unit. Big Grin


It's a High Pri 1 Billet that they must keep filled at all times. Razz




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November 13, 2017, 12:38 PM
RHINOWSO
quote:
Originally posted by navyshooter:
quote:
Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
quote:
Originally posted by 46and2:
quote:
retarded munitions

That guy was in my unit.
I think one is issued to every unit. Big Grin

It's a High Pri 1 Billet that they must keep filled at all times. Razz

Yeah, Bupers never gaps that one.

In fact, they quite often send one of their own to fill it.

Big Grin
November 13, 2017, 01:08 PM
sns3guppy
quote:
Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
Like all things in life, "it depends".

Or in the case of Taco Bell, it helps if you WEAR Depends.

Razz


Let's not denigrate the Bell. The essence of life springs from Baja Blast.
November 13, 2017, 01:15 PM
snwghst
Ask my son.

Especially right After I hit the window lock button


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November 13, 2017, 04:18 PM
Sig2340
The answer depends on factors such as precision needed at impact, altitude, attitude, airspeed, the type and extent of enemy aviation, the quantity of incoming AAA, the type of bomb, and whether it is a dumb bomb or a not-so-dumb bomb.

For example, during WWII the B17s over Europe tended to drop at close to the maximum speed because that is what was needed to keep them aloft at high altitude. Those same types of planes in the Pacific dropped at slower, very specific airspeeds when skip bombing Japanese ships.





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November 13, 2017, 06:22 PM
Texas Bob C.
Not at all in 'bomb free' zones.
November 13, 2017, 09:43 PM
tgtshuter
quote:
Originally posted by Texas Bob C.:
Not at all in 'bomb free' zones.


That’s in effect whenever my wife is in the bathroom. Smile
November 13, 2017, 10:08 PM
Rightwire
Define full speed

Full military power? Full afterburner? A specific speed in mind ie 400kts, 600kts? Mach 0.9? Mach 1.2?




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November 13, 2017, 10:29 PM
jimmy123x
It depends on what plane the bombs are being dropped from as well as the type of bomb.