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I’ve started wearing a couple of watches again, my early 70’s Accutron and my dad’s 61 Bulova self winder. To keep the self winder going it’s been suggested to have a winder but looking at Amazon I’m lost.

Just need a single watch winder, don’t foresee getting anymore of them. Reviews are all over the place so I could use a suggestion or two.


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Posts: 8529 | Location: Livingston County Michigan USA | Registered: August 11, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I currently have a Wolf double watch winder for my watch and my wife's. But I used to have a single, gifted it to a client. No problems with them, really good quality.


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No decent one is cheap. There is an ongoing and perpetual debate about whether you're better off or not to just let it run down vs. keep it wound when not wearing. For complications like perpetual calendars, moon phases, etc. it definitely makes sense, but for a time-only or even plus date probably a toss up. Again, other than for the convenience factor.

Some enjoy the interaction of setting the watch, some want to be able to put it on and go. Personally, I split the difference - regular wear items stay on winder, less regular are on winder but turn off most of the time.



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+1 for Wolf. Honestly, unless you have complications like moonphase or annual calendar, just let it run out.


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I like the couple of winders I have from Orbita -

https://www.orbita.com/collection/winders/




 
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How often is it going to be used?

I have a Wolff Cub. It is a basic watch winder. No settings it just runs pre programmed for a certain number of turns a day with rest stops in between changing direction.
Runs on batteries or a plug in power supply.

The way I use mine, the night before I want to wear a specific watch I have not worn in a while I will put it on the winder. In the morning it will be wound enough for me to set the time and date then wear it from that point forward without having to wind it manually.

I personally do not leave a watch on a winder indefinably. I basically use it to jumpstart my watch so I do not have to put any unnecessary wear on the winding works inside the watch.




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The way I use mine, the night before I want to wear a specific watch I have not worn in a while I will put it on the winder. In the morning it will be wound enough for me to set the time and date then wear it from that point forward without having to wind it manually.


I don't see the point in putting your dead auto on a winder all night beforehand...

On the typical hand-windable auto watch, it only takes about 20 twists of the crown to get it fired up. Under 10 seconds total.

So I guarantee that it take more time/effort to put it in the winder, turn the winder on, and take it back out in the morning than it would to just give the crown several cranks in the morning before you go to set it and put it on.

8+ hours on the winder is overkill, and putting unnecessary wear on your movement. Basically equivalent to wearing it twice as much.

Even if you have a watch that isn't hand-windable (though it sounds like yours is, like most modern autos), you can give it a few side to side shakes to get it started enough to set and start wearing. Lovingly called the "Seiko shake", since earlier automatics commonly used Seiko auto movements that weren't hand-windable.

As mentioned earlier by xd45man, a powered watch winder really only makes sense for auto watches with uncommon complications like moon phases or perpetual calendars. You don't want to hassle with resetting those every time.

Otherwise, it takes just a few seconds to restart and set a normal time/date or time/day/date auto, and then your body powers it the rest of the way.
 
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Avoid multi watch winder units. My experience with them has seen one or two malfunction, as opposed to the whole board going out. Meaning you'll have to send the entire unit if one has issues. Single or double units are optimal.

Also, the multi watch winders often increase in price disproportionately to the number of winders.
 
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Originally posted by 71 TRUCK:
The way I use mine, the night before I want to wear a specific watch I have not worn in a while I will put it on the winder. In the morning it will be wound enough for me to set the time and date then wear it from that point forward without having to wind it manually.


I don't see the point in putting your dead auto on a winder all night beforehand...

On the typical hand-windable auto watch, it only takes about 20 twists of the crown to get it fired up. Under 10 seconds total.

So I guarantee that it take more time/effort to put it in the winder, turn the winder on, and take it back out in the morning than it would to just give the crown several cranks in the morning before you go to set it and put it on.

8+ hours on the winder is overkill, and putting unnecessary wear on your movement. Basically equivalent to wearing it twice as much.

Even if you have a watch that isn't hand-windable (though it sounds like yours is, like most modern autos), you can give it a few side to side shakes to get it started enough to set and start wearing. Lovingly called the "Seiko shake", since earlier automatics commonly used Seiko auto movements that weren't hand-windable.

As mentioned earlier by xd45man, a powered watch winder really only makes sense for auto watches with uncommon complications like moon phases or perpetual calendars. You don't want to hassle with resetting those every time.

Otherwise, it takes just a few seconds to restart and set a normal time/date or time/day/date auto, and then your body powers it the rest of the way.



I read several years ago that there were certain movements that had a gear that would break off a tooth or two if it was wound to much. I just put it on the winder more as a convince than anything else. I am usually not in a rush to change watches.
I also never leave a watch on a winder for more than 8 hours.

The Wolff winder I have is 900 turns in a 24 hour period so I figure 300 rotations in 8 hours is not that bad.
Most automatic watches I own use between 650 and 800 turns to fully wind.

I have tried the shaking thing and my Seiko Orange Monster is the only one it seams to works for.

I have a watch with a 70 hour power reserve that takes over 50 winds of the crown just to get the second hand to start moving.
Sometime I can get a little lazy Big Grin




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It’s been many years since I wore the self winder. I take it off at night and six or seven hours later it’s stopped. The local jeweler is uncomfortable sending it out for service due to its age and that when it runs it’s keeping very good time.

Add to that my fear of sending it through USPS/FedEx/UPS and having it lost in transit, times like this I wish I lived closer to David than 2500 miles away.

Maybe I should just manually wind it once I remove it for the day and try that?


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Originally posted by 71 TRUCK:
The way I use mine, the night before I want to wear a specific watch I have not worn in a while I will put it on the winder. In the morning it will be wound enough for me to set the time and date then wear it from that point forward without having to wind it manually.


I don't see the point in putting your dead auto on a winder all night beforehand...



Yeah, I don't get the reasoning behind that at all.

My daily wear off the ship is an automatic. I've never needed a winder. Even on days when I don't put my watch on right away in the morning because I'm going to the gym or going skiing (where I use a G-Shock watch), I'll just throw a couple of manual winds on it and it'll just keep ticking throughout the day until I'm ready to put it on.


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Originally posted by RogueJSK:
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Originally posted by 71 TRUCK:
The way I use mine, the night before I want to wear a specific watch I have not worn in a while I will put it on the winder. In the morning it will be wound enough for me to set the time and date then wear it from that point forward without having to wind it manually.


I don't see the point in putting your dead auto on a winder all night beforehand...



Yeah, I don't get the reasoning behind that at all.

My daily wear off the ship is an automatic. I've never needed a winder. Even on days when I don't put my watch on right away in the morning because I'm going to the gym or going skiing (where I use a G-Shock watch), I'll just throw a couple of manual winds on it and it'll just keep ticking throughout the day until I'm ready to put it on.



Not sure if you saw the reply to RogueJSK's post. This is some of my reasoning why I do this. Also like I said sometimes I am a little lazy Wink I got the winder used, in excellent condition, for less than one third the cost new. It was kind of one of those deals you could not pass up. I figured I got it I might as well use it for something however I would never leave a watch on it for more than a few hours.

My reply was,
"I read several years ago that there were certain movements that had a gear that would break off a tooth or two if it was wound to much. I just put it on the winder more as a convince than anything else. I am usually not in a rush to change watches.
I also never leave a watch on a winder for more than 8 hours.

The Wolff winder I have is 900 turns in a 24 hour period so I figure 300 rotations in 8 hours is not that bad.
Most automatic watches I own use between 650 and 800 turns to fully wind.

I have tried the shaking thing and my Seiko Orange Monster is the only one it seams to works for.

I have a watch with a 70 hour power reserve that takes over 50 winds of the crown just to get the second hand to start moving.
Sometime I can get a little lazy. Big Grin"




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Maybe I should just manually wind it once I remove it for the day and try that?


If you've worn it all day, it's most likely already fully wound. Hand winding will have no effect at that point.

And on some watches, hand winding an already fully wound watch can cause extra wear.
 
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Gents, I have a single winder very basic and it works well. Used to leave my Rolex off the winder and forget about it in the safe. I was always rewinding it and I finally broke a winder spring inside. That is why I choose to keep it on a winder. 800+ dollars to fix. A winder is a much cheaper alternative.
 
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Not sure if you saw the reply to RogueJSK's post.


Saw it after I posted. I'd say you have some legit reasoning there.


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