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Originally posted by tleo205:

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About ten years back, we had an OIS where it was discovered that at least one of the people present had at least one magazine that was about half full.

We had a guy once who unloaded his weapon every night after work.....remove the mag, eject the one in the chamber and put it aside. Next day before work he would put the mag back in, chamber a round and never top off with the ejected one from the night before. He did this all the time and just so happened that a supervisor inspected our weapons one day and found him with less than half of a fully loaded (15 rd) magazine in the pistol.

A somewhat similar situation was determined to be the cause of a FTF for Gwinnett County Sheriff's deputy in a deadly force situation. His procedure was to unload his weapon when he got home and reload in the morning by inserting the mag cycling a round into the chamber dropping the mag and topping off with the round removed the previous evening. It was determined that the continuous unloading and loading of the same two rounds for months loosened the primer mix from the primer causing the FTF.

https://www.bluesheepdog.com/2...ion-failure-warning/

While mine did, I was an MP and it was the Army so draw your own conclusions.

Semi-routinely, semi-annually. Supposed to be cleaned and inspected every year after summer quals, but doesn't happen every year due to time/manpower constraints.

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Originally posted by texassierra:

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Originally posted by tleo205:

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About ten years back, we had an OIS where it was discovered that at least one of the people present had at least one magazine that was about half full.

We had a guy once who unloaded his weapon every night after work.....remove the mag, eject the one in the chamber and put it aside. Next day before work he would put the mag back in, chamber a round and never top off with the ejected one from the night before. He did this all the time and just so happened that a supervisor inspected our weapons one day and found him with less than half of a fully loaded (15 rd) magazine in the pistol.

A somewhat similar situation was determined to be the cause of a FTF for Gwinnett County Sheriff's deputy in a deadly force situation. His procedure was to unload his weapon when he got home and reload in the morning by inserting the mag cycling a round into the chamber dropping the mag and topping off with the round removed the previous evening. It was determined that the continuous unloading and loading of the same two rounds for months loosened the primer mix from the primer causing the FTF.

https://www.bluesheepdog.com/2...ion-failure-warning/

That's pretty interesting and I never considered the primer compound failing. I keep mine holstered and loaded. I use a sharpie to mark a line across the base of the cartridge if it was in the tube. Once there are two lines it always goes in the bottom of the magazine. My concern is bullet setback after being fed multiple times.

Our rules are that the weapon must be cleaned before the next shift after range day and we have an annual armoring day when the gun is stripped down and examined.

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Originally posted by MikeinNC:

Tasers were spark tested while in front of the patrol car to document the camera was working properly. The camera documented the tasers function also. Made us patrol guys all feel like kindergartners but I understand why they did it.

I'm a Taser instructor, too. As many of you know, the X26 and older M26) need to be sparked periodically to keep the internals working. I'm not going to pretend to know why, but Taser claims this and I've seen it time and again when devices issued to detectives and office pogues are practically dead after a year of not being sparked.

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Originally posted by texassierra:
https://www.bluesheepdog.com/2...ion-failure-warning/

Thanks for that article. I would have never guessed that any ammunition that wasn’t being subjected to a primer strike as when chambering rounds in an AR would be subject to the primer compound’s disintegrating. What about ammunition that gets rattled around constantly in a motor vehicle for months at a time?
And the last statement of the article, “A more practical method of home storage is probably to use a trigger lock or a locked storage box,” was definitely an “Oh, really‽ Who would have ever thought that we should lock our guns up rather than just leaving them lying around unloaded?”

In theory, monthly by a direct supervisor as part of a field inspection.

In reality, once a year by the range staff at Inservice Training.

In Florida, a Sgt would sometimes, maybe once a year, ask to inspect weapons and just do it to make sure the new guys were up to snuff. Qualified once per year, 46 rounds, and usually that was all that was shot per year. Most officers only shot 46 rounds a year.

I had a buddy leave his P226 9mm under my front seat when we went to lunch and it had maybe 8 FMJ rounds in the magazine when I inspected it. And was rusty and had zero lube on it.

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My old department had a quarterly weapon inspection because a sergeant found a training round in an officers pistol one day...six months after range day./QUOTE]

Worked a OIS in the mid 90's when a fellow employee ventilated a suspect and his vehicle with training rounds he failed to replace after a recent qual. The promoted nicely over the next few years and retired as a member of command staff.

Not yet.
Beginning 2021 I am instituting monthly inspections/training with the RMR. Some people aren't practicing so now I'm making it mandatory and I will do inspections at that time.

Yes, multiple.ways.

1 or 2 times.a year at mandatory in service training it is detail stripped and cleaned and inspected by certified armored.

On a possibly daily basis (in practice maybe once a week) it is also inspected by the watch commander at roll call.

I’ve been retired for quite awhile but back when we carried revolvers it was pretty common as it meant just dumping the rounds in the cylinder into one hand and presenting an empty weapon at roll call for a Sgt to inspect. After we went to autoloaders the process was too involved so it was ditched.

Thanks for the replies. Just the information I was hoping for. (Yes, I know about small sample sizes and self-selected poll responses, but it's better than what I had before. )

Nobody has inspected any of my weapons. Last year, we all had to show that we could field strip our pistols before shooting qualifications. That was the first and only time even that has happened. I just make sure my own stuff is taken care of. (We provide our own gear.) We do have some guys who are walking clusters. One guy asked me to fix his Glock, and I found the chambered round had a heavily dented primer!

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Not yet.
Beginning 2021 I am instituting monthly inspections/training with the RMR. Some people aren't practicing so now I'm making it mandatory and I will do inspections at that time.

I've contemplated how we'll do this when we inevitability (or for me, finally) authorize optics. I've considered buying tamper evident stickers for the screws to both ensure they aren't messed with and also show that they haven't loosened. Probably overkill, but some sheets totaling a few thousand stickers can be had for a few bucks.

Of course if I was picking today, we'd be getting Holosun 509Ts and that would be much less of an issue.

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Originally posted by bubbatime:
I had a buddy leave his P226 9mm under my front seat when we went to lunch and it had maybe 8 FMJ rounds in the magazine when I inspected it. And was rusty and had zero lube on it.

And if your buddy was a cop, the cynical range guy in me is like "at least he was carrying", since that's a challenge.

And why is there this weird class of cops that will carry to training in plain clothes but not off duty? You're going to sit in a classroom in a government building that is full only of other cops, and that is where you choose to be armed? Not at the mall, or a movie, or a restaurant, or a church. Nope, just training.

Many years ago I was a Reserve Police Officer for the City of Baton Rouge . Roll call before the shifts started was a pretty laid back affair except for when the Academy classes graduated and the rookies were assigned to their respective FTO's . The Shift Supervisor would line us up and inspect our uniforms and weapons , etc. It was obviously for the benefit of the rookie Officers but we all had to play along .
Other than that I don't remember any inspections even during qualifying .