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Rules of the road (Texas)
September 10, 2017, 03:36 PM
NavyGuyRules of the road (Texas)
Discussion (AKA difference of opinion) with my wife. She's driving and we are on a one way street. We come up to a crossing one way street that we want to make a left hand turn on. She's in the left hand lane of course. Pretty much zero traffic and the light turns red before we get to the intersection and we are the first car at the intersection. She stops and just sits there. I tell her to go ahead and turn since she's come to a complete stop and it's safe. She says nope, only turn right on a red light is allowed. Of course I just sit there as I've learned to pick my battles, but what say the brain trust? Wait for the green light or go ahead and turn when it's safe?
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-D.H. Lawrence September 10, 2017, 03:39 PM
comet24Depends on the state. In Maryland, I know it used to be OK. There is one of those near where I grew up. A few years ago I was up there and noticed they had put a no left turn on red sign. I'm guessing the new sign is because of increase in traffic with some many new homes.
FWIW I used to turn left on that red light before the sign went up.
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September 10, 2017, 03:39 PM
konata88If I'm understanding correctly, I would go.
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Balzé HalzéYou are permitted to make a left turn on red in the scenario you described. At least in most states. You are correct. The woman is wrong.
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September 10, 2017, 03:54 PM
V-Tailquote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
The woman is wrong.
You're new at this stuff, aren't you?
הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים September 10, 2017, 04:02 PM
ZSMICHAELFurther conditions from Texas. Some people are OCD. LOL
You may also turn left after you stop at a red light, if you are in the left lane and are turning left from a one-way street onto another one-way street, unless a sign tells you not to turn. You must first stop and yield to pedestrians and other traffic.
As V tail points out the WOMAN would note the above conditions, I ASSURE YOU.
September 10, 2017, 04:06 PM
craigcpaquote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé: At least in most states. You are correct.
Let's start a collection:
Not in North Carolina.
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September 10, 2017, 04:06 PM
rhBarring pedestrians or a sign prohibiting a left turn, she could have legally turned left after stopping.
http://codes.findlaw.com/tx/tr...sp-sect-544-007.html(d) An operator of a vehicle facing only a steady red signal shall stop at a clearly marked stop line. In the absence of a stop line, the operator shall stop before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection. A vehicle that is not turning shall remain standing until an indication to proceed is shown. After stopping, standing until the intersection may be entered safely, and yielding right-of-way to pedestrians lawfully in an adjacent crosswalk and other traffic lawfully using the intersection, the operator may:
- (1) turn right; or
- (2) turn left, if the intersecting streets are both one-way streets and a left turn is permissible.
Since I turn left onto one-way streets from one-way streets and have never been ticketed, it must be legal in Washington too.
September 10, 2017, 04:08 PM
Elk Hunterquote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
The woman is wrong.
You're new at this stuff, aren't you?
Elk
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September 10, 2017, 04:14 PM
slosigTurning left from the left hand lane of a one way street onto a one way street (that goes to the left) would seem to make perfect sense, just like the generally accepted "right turn on red is okay in the absence of a sing indicating otherwise". However, traffic laws do not always make sense. I'm sure it varies from state to state, and one could look it up in the Texas vehicle code, but as noted by V-Tail, right or wrong, arguing the point with the spouse is unlikely to have a positive result. "When arguing with a woman, if you lose you lose, and if you win you lose."
September 10, 2017, 04:41 PM
car541legal in Texas. TC 544.007 (d)(2).
quote:
Sec. 544.007. TRAFFIC-CONTROL SIGNALS IN GENERAL. (a) A traffic-control signal displaying different colored lights or colored lighted arrows successively or in combination may display only green, yellow, or red and applies to operators of vehicles as provided by this section..........
(d) An operator of a vehicle facing only a steady red signal shall stop at a clearly marked stop line. In the absence of a stop line, the operator shall stop before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection. A vehicle that is not turning shall remain standing until an indication to proceed is shown. After stopping, standing until the intersection may be entered safely, and yielding right-of-way to pedestrians lawfully in an adjacent crosswalk and other traffic lawfully using the intersection, the operator may:
(1) turn right; or
(2) turn left, if the intersecting streets are both one-way streets and a left turn is permissible.......
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September 10, 2017, 04:47 PM
PHPaulquote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
The woman is wrong.
You're new at this stuff, aren't you?
BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Be careful when following the masses. Sometimes the M is silent.
September 10, 2017, 05:16 PM
Balzé Halzéquote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
The woman is wrong.
You're new at this stuff, aren't you?
Just for the record, I'm currently over 2,000 miles distant from the wife...
~Alan
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Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan
September 10, 2017, 05:30 PM
V-Tailquote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
The woman is wrong.
You're new at this stuff, aren't you?
Just for the record, I'm currently over 2,000 miles distant from the wife...
Stay safe, dude.
הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים September 10, 2017, 05:31 PM
JimineerAs long as no cop is around, it is legal everywhere.
September 10, 2017, 05:32 PM
V-Tailquote:
Originally posted by PHPaul:
quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
The woman is wrong.
You're new at this stuff, aren't you?
BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Not that tough to figure out. And I was just an E-5. Didn't even get the hat.
הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים September 10, 2017, 06:26 PM
TxRoadrunnerquote:
Originally posted by Elk Hunter:
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Originally posted by V-Tail:
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
The woman is wrong.
You're new at this stuff, aren't you?
+1
September 10, 2017, 06:28 PM
BurtonRWquote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
The woman is wrong.
You're new at this stuff, aren't you?
Just for the record, I'm currently over 2,000 miles distant from the wife...
Also, she's French, right? So who the hell knows how they drive? She probably wouldn't even have stopped, am I right?
-Rob
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A=A September 10, 2017, 06:42 PM
NavyGuyThanks for the comments boys... I thought of showing this to my love, but then again, not worth it. She's a good cook and brings me a sandwich now and again.
Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves.
-D.H. Lawrence September 10, 2017, 07:33 PM
mikeyspizzaGood to go in TX. Not NC.
Texas Transportation Code - TRANSP §544.007 (d)(2).