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Drive looking as far ahead as you can see. When you see things start to change - rain, snow, fog, brake lights - start slowing down before you're in it. Once you're in it, if you are going 70 mph you're covering 102 feet every second. (mphx1.466=fps.) The average persons' reaction time is approximately 1.6 seconds. By the time you decide to act you've covered about 165 feet. Actual braking time and distance is beyond that. Making it worse, speed loss isn't linear...most of the speed loss is at the end of the stop. Or in other words, slow down early or get a painful physics lesson. | |||
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OK What about the guy behind you going 70mph? I just pull way off the road and wait for things to clear. | |||
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| In the yahd, not too fah from the cah  |
Problem is that wasn't an option on this road. There's no moving well off the road and hoping to avoid the mess. | |||
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^^^^^^^^^ Yeah I saw that after I posted. The option is hitting the bridge and going for a swim. | |||
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Most cars and nearly all commercial trucks have dashcams mounted in them. Dashcams that can be programmed to detect whiteout conditions. Most of these units are also directly linked to a GPS unit that is typically connected to the cellular network. What we have here is a network of what could be whiteout reporting systems that could pass that critical information to all of the vehicles on that same road. With a bit of effort it's a system that could implement a defined slowing event that covers 10 or 50 miles if necessary. All you need is a message displayed on GPS readout screen that provide a progression of decreasing speed you should match. In addition there would be enough redundancy that ALL of the traffic would slow, because those lacking a dashcam/GPS would get caught up in all the slowing traffic. I've stopped counting. | |||
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I stopped on I-94 heading into Chicago once. It was the first time encountered the truth behind those signs warning that the bridges freeze before the roadways. I was on the brakes, off the brakes, steer to avoid another car four times before I stopped in my 1986 Honda CRX. Then a policer officer waved me through and told me to get my ass moving so I wouldn’t get hit. I slowed way down for the next bridges on that trip after that. The cars in this particular accident all stopped. By definition, they failed to maintain highway speed. That by no means meant they should have tried to.  Slowing down is what set of the chain reaction. I don’t believe this was avoidable if the fog was so thick people could’t see two cars in front of them. First couple cars hit the brakes going in, next couple hit the brakes a little harder, the third set hits the second set, and that’s all she wrote. On the open road, cars can swerve to the sides to avoid the cars in front of them, but there was no place for anyone to go on the bridge. | |||
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When I see a slow down up ahead, I've gotten into the habit of putting my hazards on right away. SIGforum: For all your needs! Imagine our influence if every gun owner in America was an NRA member! Click the box>>>  | |||
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Maybe I'm giving people too much benefit of a doubt but if you're driving in fog and see that you can't see as far as you usually do and think you can still drive at 70 mph, they should take your license to drive away. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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Hard to decide what to do once your involved and come to a stop. Stay in your car and risk getting slammed into by a semi going 50 mph? If you get out you need to get far away from the shoulder. but you can't on a bridge. Several yeas ago a big pileup due to snow whiteout, little girl standing in the median. Truck hit the steel cable in the median, snapped the cable and it killed her. | |||
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You're better off staying in your vehicle absent being on fire. If traffic is approaching you at highway speeds from behind there's no way to outrun it on foot, you're completely unprotected, and there's no guarantee that the traffic coming up behind you will remain on the roadway. | |||
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Yup. Never leave your vehicle. Even during a small fender bender in traffic, it's best to take your time and assess your surroundings and not immediately jump out of your car. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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ding ding ding, we have a winner!!! | |||
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What will the self driving cars do in zero visibility? “That’s what.” - She | |||
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I don’t own a Tesla but if works anything at all like the others, it will turn itself off and give it back to the driver. They used to be radar and optical systems but the radar part has gone away is my understanding. No vis, no self drive. Which is why self driving is a poor description. It is self driving right up till it isn’t. Which can be anywhere from ample warning to you just plowed under a semi. | |||
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i saw a driver-less waymo continue driving when all others were stopped, both directions for fire/ambulance with lights/siren!! | |||
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It’s back. Thankfully not as major. I’m still sitting at the house as hwy 90 is closed currently also. Some good video from earlier. Gives a clear picture of the zero visibility https://www.fox8live.com/2023/...g-limits-visibility/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Live today as if it may be your last and learn today as if you will live forever | |||
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Muh passing lane!!!! I gotta PASS EVERYONE at 100+mph, 'cause I'm PASSING!!!!!! ____________________________ Eeewwww, don't touch it! Here, poke at it with this stick. | |||
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The big wreck from 2 weeks ago was out on the far west side outside New Orleans on a divided elevated section over the southern end of the Manchac Swamp... This new current wreck is located on the far eastern side of New Orleans on the roadway that is at ground level going thru a swamp/marsh area.. Which has a fire burning in a area that makes fighting the fire almost impossible because of the fuel feeding the fire and accesability for fire fighting crews and equipment to the area..... Almost like those underground coal fires in the US that have been burning for the past 50 years and caused entire towns to be abandoned .... Or the tundra (muskage) fires in Alaska .................... drill sgt. | |||
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I stayed home from work today. Steady stream of diverted traffic had hwy 90 snarled for hours and shut down at one point. I’m hoping with all the truck traffic today the Chef Pass Bridge doesn’t break. I’m pretty sure they will have to adjust its level. This is not my picture but was taken about 2 miles from the house about 9am  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Live today as if it may be your last and learn today as if you will live forever | |||
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