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I'm on a mobile, so I can't really post it. But the Senate passed a bill loosening isp privacy laws. Not a tinfoil hat type, but I'd like to hear opinions of those more knowledgeable than I. I've always assumed, unless you log into a service, your traffic is seen as just an IP address. They can't tie it to a name. Not that I have anything to hide, of course. | ||
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Dies Irae |
Congress Just Gave ISPs The Green Light To Sell Your Browsing History Without Consent Congress Just Gave Internet Providers the Green Light to Sell Your Browsing History Without Consent Libby Watson
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Info Guru |
The Senate bill just prevents rules going into effect that Obama ordered last year. Nothing changes with the passage of this bill. Your internet browsing history has been sold since day one - are there really people who still don't know this? It's been that way since the advent of the internet. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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Oh stewardess, I speak jive. |
HR320 and Senate Joint Resolution 34 repeals the Internet Privacy Rule / FCC Privacy Protections, and lets ISPs (continue to, as they always have) sell your search history. Both passed and it's now headed to Trump. The sponsor, Representative Blackburn, took $693,000 from the industry and has never voted against it. Here's a list of 50 GOP Senators who support it. | |||
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Info Guru |
The bill changes nothing. ISP's have always sold browsing history. The rules that Obama wanted did not go into effect - the rules would have required the ISP to send you a disclosure and have you check a box up front that you agree to the terms. A bunch of overhyped nonsense from the anti-Trump media. Literally, this bill would keep things the way they have always been - nothing has changed.
In other words a disclosure box that you have to check in order to get service from the ISP, like the software agreements you have to check off to install a program. http://www.mediaite.com/online...ernet-privacy-rules/ “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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A Grateful American |
AI for "data gathering" on the Internet is like a bloodhound. You think your stink is invisible, but a hound's nose can "see" your tracks like the noonday sun. The "pairing" of your digital wandering to you is much easier than you would realize and the longer you are "on" and the more things you "do", smaller the gap from you to the trail of breadcrumbs you leave. "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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On the wrong side of the Mobius strip |
Something like this... | |||
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So on this note, who do we like for VPN providers? | |||
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Official forum SIG Pro enthusiast |
Wonder how AT&T will take my tranny porn browsing and translate it into advertising potential? Oh well, it's their problem. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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Fire begets Fire |
No such thing ... "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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Privacy for consumers? You are already paying an ISP for service, and that monthly payment should be enough. That's not good enough, they also want to sell your data. Bullshit. What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone | |||
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PIA, integrates well with OpenVPN, too. $40/year. On a Mac, use Viscosity for your client. On the iPhone, all the functionality you need is built in. Use the OpenVPN client app. | |||
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What email provider do you use or think is more secure than the big name providers? I've heard Protonmail in Switzerland is free and they encrypt your mail on their servers. | |||
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Info Guru |
They don't want to start selling your data, they have been doing it since the inception of the internet. Nothing has changed, and nothing would have changed with the proposed rules. The rules would have made the ISP's put a disclosure up that you have to agree to before you sign up or continue with their service - like a software agreement to install software. No ISP would operate or give you service without agreeing to the terms - so literally nothing would have changed if the rules had gone into effect. This whole story is a big nothing-burger being spread by ignorant media who see it as another opportunity to bash Trump. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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Some suggestions here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2..._internet_histories/ You can't truly call yourself "peaceful" unless you are capable of great violence. If you're not capable of great violence, you're not peaceful, you're harmless. NRA Benefactor/Patriot Member | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
On the internet, you have no privacy. ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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Thanks for the recommendation. Just signed up. I'll look into viscosity. | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
Yup. It's just Republicans doing what Republicans always do when they gain control: Toss the consumer under the bus and give business whatever it wants. I predicted that, following the results of the last election, Republicans would do what Republicans always do, and get themselves thrown out on their collective ear in the midterms. So far they're meeting expectations nicely. I should have put money on it. It was a sure thing. And, no, ISPs haven't "always sold browsing history," despite what some of the predictably-pro-business, predictably-pro-"conservative" types around here will tell you. At least not in the way they want to. Mainly they were only providing it to traffic-ranking sites, which is a far cry from what they plan to do. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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I don't believe any email provider is secure, or at least I operate under the assumption that anything I put out there can be "had". Even if you overcome the hurdles of using S-MIME, PGP, GPG, TLS or whatever encryption method you choose, the email still exists in plain text at some point at each end. I POP from my domain hosting service (OpenSRS), and I use my own smtp server to send from my personal domain. Just assume it can be read, and don't put a secret squirrel stuff in your emails. | |||
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