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He needs to get out of Toronto. Alberta, CA and the smaller surrounding towns, back in Oct 2023, were rather nice and I didn't see near the homeless population. Cities everywhere have become pools of ilk.

If they want to get rid of homelessness...quit feeding them and stop funding their shanty towns. A hungry man will learn to work or die. I'm fine with either option.


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Canada is a socialist country - everything is a social program, medicine and health care, you can’t escape it. Some provinces were better at minimizing the effects of it - Alberta being the best because of its oil and gas.
 
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If they want to get rid of homelessness...quit feeding them and stop funding their shanty towns. A hungry man will learn to work or die. I'm fine with either option.


While I agree with what you said unfortunately there is a large part of the homeless population that have mental health issues.
Most people won't hire them for obvious reasons. Most probably don't have any family to help support them and the ones that do have family Most likely are not willing to take on the responsibility.
I was watching a program last night that talked about how the prison system has a large percentage of the population that have mental health issues. It is thought they no where else to go. For some it's either on the street or the prison.
I saw a lot of this back when I lived in NJ years ago.




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Once upon a time there were mental institutions of varying quality which cared for the mentally ill. Unfortunately, decades ago the Democrats in the US, and I assume socialists in Canada, decided it was a good idea to "free" the mentally ill into their local communities. The assumption was that a "community health" program would materialize to care for all these unfortunate individuals; it did not. Since few mental institutions exist today, the only option for the seriously ill who act out and commit crimes is incarceration in prisons. As noted, they also constitute a large portion of the homeless population. While mental institutions in the past had their share of problems, abolishing rather than reforming them was the chosen path. I am empathetic towards the mentally ill but also recognize that they can pose various types of danger to themselves, others, and communities.
 
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Once upon a time there were mental institutions of varying quality which cared for the mentally ill. Unfortunately, decades ago the Democrats in the US, and I assume socialists in Canada, decided it was a good idea to "free" the mentally ill into their local communities. The assumption was that a "community health" program would materialize to care for all these unfortunate individuals; it did not. Since few mental institutions exist today, the only option for the seriously ill who act out and commit crimes is incarceration in prisons. As noted, they also constitute a large portion of the homeless population. While mental institutions in the past had their share of problems, abolishing rather than reforming them was the chosen path. I am empathetic towards the mentally ill but also recognize that they can pose various types of danger to themselves, others, and communities.



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My first wife was director of admissions at Tennessee's Central State. She predicted what would happen when TN closed the institutions. Of course no one consulted the professionals working at the state mental health facilities.


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Yes and yes.


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Once upon a time there were mental institutions of varying quality which cared for the mentally ill. Unfortunately, decades ago the Democrats in the US, and I assume socialists in Canada, decided it was a good idea to "free" the mentally ill into their local communities. The assumption was that a "community health" program would materialize to care for all these unfortunate individuals; it did not. Since few mental institutions exist today, the only option for the seriously ill who act out and commit crimes is incarceration in prisons. As noted, they also constitute a large portion of the homeless population. While mental institutions in the past had their share of problems, abolishing rather than reforming them was the chosen path. I am empathetic towards the mentally ill but also recognize that they can pose various types of danger to themselves, others, and communities.


As much as it pains me to say, this is widely recognized as having started with Reagan. First as California Governor, then as US President. Hey, don't shoot the messenger.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._Systems_Act_of_1980



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And their so called "MAID" euthanasia law is out of control. I saw that a Canadian Forces veteran, now homeless and in need of gov assistance applied for benefits and they actually came back and said to the effect "have you considered killing yourself with our help instead?"



 
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And their so called "MAID" euthanasia law is out of control. I saw that a Canadian Forces veteran, now homeless and in need of gov assistance applied for benefits and they actually came back and said to the effect "have you considered killing yourself with our help instead?"



That's messed up. Is all of Canada like this or certain Provence's?




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Anyone that believes socialism within the human race is a useful answer to anything is insane or a rabid leftist (and look how happy THEY are). Socialism/communism are beneficial to insect colonies and that’s about it. In other words, where the individual serves a higher caste with little or no benefit to that individual.




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They sure went from being our harmless-yet-novel socialist neighbors, to a balls-out example of how communism will destroy your life fast.
 
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Once upon a time there were mental institutions of varying quality which cared for the mentally ill. Unfortunately, decades ago the Democrats in the US, and I assume socialists in Canada, decided it was a good idea to "free" the mentally ill into their local communities. The assumption was that a "community health" program would materialize to care for all these unfortunate individuals; it did not. Since few mental institutions exist today, the only option for the seriously ill who act out and commit crimes is incarceration in prisons. As noted, they also constitute a large portion of the homeless population. While mental institutions in the past had their share of problems, abolishing rather than reforming them was the chosen path. I am empathetic towards the mentally ill but also recognize that they can pose various types of danger to themselves, others, and communities.


As much as it pains me to say, this is widely recognized as having started with Reagan. First as California Governor, then as US President. Hey, don't shoot the messenger.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._Systems_Act_of_1980


That's the political spin, but what REALLY happened was...
Gov. Brown (democrat/socialist) knowing he was soon to be out of office and Reagan would soon be in office, passed this law which was slated to be imposed during the Reagan administration.

So, the dishonest and evil left found a way to impose their will and blame it on someone else.

I was here in California at the time.

That's what really happened.
 
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Once upon a time there were mental institutions of varying quality which cared for the mentally ill. Unfortunately, decades ago the Democrats in the US, and I assume socialists in Canada, decided it was a good idea to "free" the mentally ill into their local communities. The assumption was that a "community health" program would materialize to care for all these unfortunate individuals; it did not. Since few mental institutions exist today, the only option for the seriously ill who act out and commit crimes is incarceration in prisons. As noted, they also constitute a large portion of the homeless population. While mental institutions in the past had their share of problems, abolishing rather than reforming them was the chosen path. I am empathetic towards the mentally ill but also recognize that they can pose various types of danger to themselves, others, and communities.


As much as it pains me to say, this is widely recognized as having started with Reagan. First as California Governor, then as US President. Hey, don't shoot the messenger.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._Systems_Act_of_1980


That's the political spin, but what REALLY happened was...
Gov. Brown (democrat/socialist) knowing he was soon to be out of office and Reagan would soon be in office, passed this law which was slated to be imposed during the Reagan administration.

So, the dishonest and evil left found a way to impose their will and blame it on someone else.

I was here in California at the time.

That's what really happened.


The Left is doing the same thing with California's prison system as they did with the mental health hospitals. Closing them under the guises of being "humane", while ignoring the consequences of releasing those who are a danger to themselves and others without any real concern about those harmed.

Governor NewSCUM and his allies in the legislature claim that a majority of those doing time in prison (for FELONY CONVICTIONS) have some sort of mental disability, that can be magically cured through talk therapy and/or voluntary use of prescribed medication. The fact that these "cures" rarely if ever prevent recidivism is completely ignored. These idiots' credibility is about as good as wikipedia, that is to say: little or none.


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As is often the case, people get what they vote for. They probably didn't vote for this specifically, but they voted for and continue to vote for the leftists that make it happen.




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Community mental health centers were NEVER funded appropriately when the state hospitals closed. They had trouble recruiting comopetent psychologists as well. Everybody is now talking about treatment for the mentally ill but are not funding it apppropriately. The institutions of old were never very good, calling them snake pits would be appropriate. The film "One flew over the Cuckoos nest" is rather accurate.
 
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Was just watching Viva Frei and he stated that nearly 5% of deaths last year in Canada were MAID. Eek

Went back and verified, he says 4.1% of deaths in Canada.
 
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Believe it or not, homelessness is pretty big business. It is an industry that employs and enriches many. If “we” solve the problem, the money (state, federal, and donations) gets turned off. The only way the business can make more money next year is for the problem to grow.

We have been throwing money at this for decades. There is a reason why we haven’t solved the problem.




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As was stated above it was Brown Sr. who passed the law that Regan had to carry out.

Yet people always say it was Regan.


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