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California coffee shop bans cops for ‘physical and emotional safety of our customers’

BY JOSH MAGNESS
jmagness@mcclatchy.com
March 09, 2018 09:36 AM
Updated 8 hours 50 minutes ago

Don’t bother going to Hasta Muerte Coffee if you’re a uniformed police officer.

The coffee shop in Oakland, California, asked a local police sergeant to leave after he stopped by for a cup of joe a few weeks ago, according to KTVU. The shop, with a name that means “until death” in Spanish, is a worker-owned co-op with a policy of turning away law enforcement officials.

An Instagram post from Hasta Muerte Coffee explains the business’ reasoning for refusing to serve cops.

It came with a picture that said “Talk to your neighbors, not the police” in Spanish.

“Last Friday February 16th a police (OPD) entered our shop and was told by one of our worker-owners that ‘we have a policy of asking police to leave for the physical and emotional safety of our customers and ourselves,’” the post read. “ … We know in our experience working on campaigns against police brutality that we are not alone saying that police presence compromises our feeling of physical & emotional safety.

“There are those that do not share that sentiment – be it because they have a friend or relative who is a police, because they are white or have adopted the privileges whiteness affords, because they are home- or business- owning, or whatever the particular case may be.”

The Oakland Police Officers Association asked for an explanation for the no-police policy, according to NBC Bay Area.

The shop — with a website describing it as a place “operated collectively by people of color, where the workers are owners” — didn’t respond to the police association letter or NBC’s request for comment.

Noel Gallo, an Oakland city councilmember who represents the coffee shop’s district, told KTVU that he met with workers from Hasta Muerte Coffee about their policy.

“My understanding is they’re not going to serve police officers,” Gallo said. “I don’t agree with that, 100 percent. I think we need to work together, not against each other.”

The controversy even reached the “Fox & Friends” panel this week.

Steve Doocy, co-host of the conservative morning show on Fox News, asked “when somebody comes into this coffee shop to rob them, who are they going to call?”

While some expressed anger about the shop’s rule, others argued that Hasta Muerte Coffee has a right to determine who can enjoy its freshly-brewed drinks. That includes Tenaya Gunter Brown, who lives in Oakland.

“I think that if a group of people don’t feel safe with a police officer currently on duty, coming into a space,” she told KTVU, “ … then that is a choice they should be able to make.”

The unidentified officer who Hasta Muerte Coffee refused to serve told NBC that he hopes to talk to people at the shop and find a way to bridge the divide.

The shop wrote on Instagram that it wouldn’t be surprised if police to try to maintain “smooth public relations to uphold power.”

“We want to put this out to our communities now, in case we end up facing backlash because as we know (Oakland police), unlike the community, has tons of resources, many of which are poured into maintaining smooth public relations to uphold power,” the Instagram post read. “It will be no surprise if some of those resources are steered toward discrediting us for not inviting them in as part of the community.”

That was the policy at the Ravenite Social Club, a family oriented place in Little Italy, favored by the Gambino family.

"a friend or relative who is a police"..not too gooda engrish. Too bad for Oakland. I would never go there because I might be white.

All i read is "please rob us. The cops know not to come here."

Where are those ICE hats on Amazon again?

Their insurance carrier should be made aware that their chance of being robbed just went up.

I guess they have the right to refuse service to uniformed LEO--police are not a "protected group"--but I think it's "pound foolish". It sounds to me like a place that caters to low-life thugs and illegal aliens. Maybe the police are not welcome inside, but I think they'd be watching the clientele very closely.

flashguy

E.27th & Fruitvale...
They'll be run out of the area because their business is too bougie, most of the people in that area are too poor or, trying to save up and get out of the area, to go buy coffee from a boutique shop. Give it a few months and the neighborhood predators will see all the 'white radicals' streaming-in, a couple of hold-ups and they'll close shop.

Enjoy their IG https://www.instagram.com/hast...&action=profilevisit

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Originally posted by PorterN:
All i read is "please rob us. The cops know not to come here."

Sounds like the perfect place to rob.

If I were a paramedic or firefighter, I might have trouble finding the place if I were called for emergency services...

I wonder how they feel about the fire department.
Or EMT/ambulance. Or USPS delivery. Or any non white power public servant.

I'm so old, I recall when cops were welcomed in.
Where did my America go?

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Originally posted by PorterN:
All i read is "please rob us. The cops know not to come here."

No kidding. Oakland is #27 on the most violent cities (violent crimes per 1000 people) in the US list. They're worse then Trenton, NJ, and Washington, DC.

A smart person would be trying to increase on duty and off duty LEO traffic into their business.

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Originally posted by tatortodd:

quote:

Originally posted by PorterN:
All i read is "please rob us. The cops know not to come here."

No kidding. Oakland is #27 on the most violent cities (violent crimes per 1000 people) in the US list. They're worse then Trenton, NJ, and Washington, DC.

A smart person would be trying to increase on duty and off duty LEO traffic into their business.

You pinpointed the problem (bolding mine - I might suggest it may not be as much a lack of intelligence as it is misguided principles and a lack of wisdom).

Dear Bloods, Crips, Latin Kings, MS13 , etc.

The following establishment, Hasta Muerte Coffee , is off limits to law enforcement. Please feel safe and free to claim this as your turf

Every time you think you’ve heard the stupidest thing you could possibly imagine; a new day dawns.

quote:

Originally posted by TMats:
Every time you think you’ve heard the stupidest thing you could possibly imagine; a new day dawns.

Yeah, it's almost like they're trying to outdo one another. Kali cannot fall into the Pacific soon enough.

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Originally posted by dsiets:
Where are those ICE hats on Amazon again?

Just park one of these on the street in front of their shop:

See how quick they're offended.

Wouldn't it be great if this place was robbed 3 or 4 times a day?

^^^^^ I'm guessing some of their customers may well be considering it.

flashguy