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Chili con Carne vs friends
February 16, 2018, 12:12 PM
JALLENChili con Carne vs friends
The question isn’t whether chili has or should have beans. The answer is that if it otherwise resembles chili but contains beans, it is Mexican succotash, not chili.
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.
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V-Tailquote:
Originally posted by zoom6zoom:
can we please leave that entire stupid beans no beans argument over at that other bloated pseudo gun board?
There's no one right way to cook anything. If you like an ingredient use it. And when you grow up in a large family, you use beans, because they're cheap and filling.
What he said.
הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים February 16, 2018, 12:25 PM
John Steedquote:
Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
quote:
Originally posted by EasyFire:
A cook puts beans in Chili when too poor to put meat in it. Truth!!!
Chili is a rich man's food... learn something new every day.
My mother was born and raised in Texas, the daughter of a very poor sharecropper with a large family. She ALWAYS made chili with beans. It was damn good too.
I have often wondered how many transplanted Californians have suddenly become "Chili Snobs".
... stirred anti-clockwise. February 16, 2018, 12:37 PM
GT-40DOCWay, way back when I was in college and broke, I could go to the Tasty-Freeze with $0.15 and buy a Frito Chili Pie!!! They opened a bag of Frito corn chips and put a small ladle of chili over them, and added onions. They gave you a plastic spoon. Man, that was good, because I was hungry!!
February 16, 2018, 12:43 PM
HK Agquote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
quote:
Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
What, you like that red soup Texans call chili, without beans?
It’s just tomater soup with some peppers and meat in it!!!

Your comments reveal only the profound depths of your ignorance. Texas red contains little to no tomatoes. The red comes from the chilis.
And the OP would be acting entirely properly to eliminate such pernicious influences from his social circle.
Here Here!!
February 16, 2018, 12:56 PM
mark123quote:
Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
quote:
Originally posted by EasyFire:
A cook puts beans in Chili when too poor to put meat in it. Truth!!!
Chili is a rich man's food... learn something new every day.
Dang one percenters!

February 16, 2018, 01:10 PM
mark123quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
The question isn’t whether chili has or should have beans. The answer is that if it otherwise resembles chili but contains beans, it is Mexican succotash, not chili.
February 16, 2018, 01:14 PM
jhe888quote:
Originally posted by cne32507:
Does this look like tomater soup?
I make two kinds of chili: Texas Red (no tomatoes, see above) and Carroll Shelby's kit with added beans for the grandkids. That's chili con carne. Don't call a magazine a clip and don't call chili con carne simply "chili." My chili won a local club competition. The second place lady said mine wasn't "real chili" because it didn't have beans. I just nodded and pointed to the blue ribbon.
I brought beaner Tom, my ex-friend, a serving yesterday to take home. We'll see what he says Wednesday, but he's a stubborn Alabama redneck set in his ways. I would be surprised if he even admits he liked it.
This is not a dig. In Texas chili competitions, beans are disqualifying.
The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. February 16, 2018, 01:23 PM
RHINOWSOMmmm that’s some good ‘mater soup!!!
Where is the grilled cheese sammich?
February 16, 2018, 04:06 PM
Expert308quote:
Originally posted by zoom6zoom:
can we please leave that entire stupid beans no beans argument over at that other bloated pseudo gun board?
There's no one right way to cook anything. If you like an ingredient use it. And when you grow up in a large family, you use beans, because they're cheap and filling.
But these threads are always so much fun to read!

February 16, 2018, 06:39 PM
Erick85quote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
Your comments reveal only the profound depths of your ignorance. Texas red contains little to no tomatoes. The red comes from the chilis.
Well why the hell does your recipe that I've been using for a bit now have a can of crushed tomatoes in it? You been holding out on us, giving us "fake" Texas Red recipes?

February 16, 2018, 06:46 PM
vthokyWould I be drifting the thread too badly if I asked for a no-bean chili recipe?
Afterward, I just have to figure which of my friends like chili with beans and which don't. So far, none of my friends have turned down chili I've made, regardless of bean status.
(I think that's not necessarily because it's so good, but more that I cooked and invited.)

God bless America. February 16, 2018, 07:02 PM
Erick85Here is jhe888's recipe that he has posted multiple times on the forum, and it is now our go to recipe for our chili.
Texas Red
jhe888
Sautee a very large chopped onion
Add five minced cloves of garlic
Add and brown 2 pounds of red meat - beef, pork, or venison, cubed or coarsely ground
Add and lightly sautee chopped fresh peppers to taste:
2 poblanos (Not hot, don't skimp)
2 jalapenos
2 serranos
4 tablespoons chili powder (more to taste)
1 to 2 teaspoons cumin
dried crushed red chili to taste
whatever other peppers you want
Add a bottle of beer
One small can crushed tomatoes
1 to 2 teaspoons black pepper
1/2 teaspoon cocoa powder
Salt to taste
A teaspoon or two of oregano (Mexican if available)
2 or 3 bay leaves
Simmer for two or three hours, longer won't hurt
Add liquid (beef broth) if needed
Thicken before serving with masa flour in a little water (regular flour or cornstarch will be work)
February 16, 2018, 07:05 PM
V-Tailquote:
Originally posted by vthoky:
Would I be drifting the thread too badly if I asked for a no-bean chili recipe?
Just make regular chili, and when it's done, pick all the beans out.
הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים February 16, 2018, 07:06 PM
vthokyquote:
Originally posted by Erick85:
Here is jhe888's recipe that he has posted multiple times on the forum, and it is now our go to recipe for our chili.
Thank you!
Looks like I have a kitchen project this coming weekend.
God bless America. February 16, 2018, 07:11 PM
VoshterkoffChili with no beans is more of a really lame stew.
February 16, 2018, 07:14 PM
Erick85I usually get a beef roast of some sort and cube it. Let it simmer all day and the meat will melt in your mouth. With the peppers listed, it isn't too hot. My kids think it's spicy, but it isn't bad. The last time, I couldn't find poblano peppers, so I used Cubanelle (imagine, Walmart didn't have Poblano peppers, but had Cubanelle peppers) and it was much milder. The kids loved it. I would have preferred more spice, but I'd also rather the kids eat it than not.
February 16, 2018, 07:20 PM
lastmanstandingquote:
Originally posted by arfmel:
I just hope we can all agree that chili doesn't have macaroni or corn in it.
Now you're talking goulash man!
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February 16, 2018, 07:45 PM
striker1Is it legit to top my real Texas chili with chopped onions and a little mustard? Asking for a friend.
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February 16, 2018, 09:04 PM
arfmelI think the onions are entirely acceptable but am not sure about the mustard.

I believe you can top chili with whatever you want. The issue may be whether or not mustard, corn, macaroni, tomatoes, yams, kale, or beans are part of the chili recipe, or something you put on it at the table. Dad used to put ketchup on his.