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Hornady and the vaccine mandate
October 28, 2021, 05:46 PM
RichardCHornady and the vaccine mandate
When a lamb strays from the flock, a good shepherd doesn't abandon it to the wolves, he guides it back to the flock, and teaches it the wisdom it lacked.
I think that's what Ronald Reagan was trying to help us to see with his "Eleventh Commandment."
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October 28, 2021, 05:50 PM
parabellumYou actually think we're going to teach Steve Hornady "wisdom"?
We can't teach him anything, since he should already be aware of what we're telling him, which is don't fuck with your customers.
October 29, 2021, 01:35 AM
Prefontainequote:
Originally posted by Skull Leader:
As I understand it, the OSHA regulation allows for weekly testing. So no one has to get the vaccine if they don't want it in this instance.
The question that I have is: Since this testing is a requirement of employment, will the employer be providing the testing and will it occur during work hours?
My *cough* employer as well. Vaccine or weekly PCR. The Gestapo at work is now requiring your papers via some third party app. Heads are about to roll. People are leaving, people are retiring early……
What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone
October 31, 2021, 02:56 PM
GraniteguyIs Hornady still the only company in the shooting sports industry to issue this mandate thus far? (despite backpedaling on it after)
October 31, 2021, 03:03 PM
dgshooterIs he still an NRA Board Member? Is so he should be forced to resign. It seems he would be to quick to back a government gun grab.
October 31, 2021, 04:20 PM
OzarkwoodsSo instead of having employees why not have independent contractors? Pay them the amount for the company’s contribution taxes, healthcare and benefits.
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October 31, 2021, 06:42 PM
357fuzzquote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Has anyone here gauged reactions in other gun forums?
I have not. Of the few sites I visit once in a while I have not seen anything about it.
October 31, 2021, 06:51 PM
jimmy123xquote:
Originally posted by rduckwor:
First of all, let me tell you that I, too, detest this socialistic approach to government and their mandates.
But, put yourself in Steve Hornady's shoes for a few minutes. He runs a company of >100 employees that makes a product in serious shortage right now. Yes, he has attorneys at his beck and call and you might suspect he has discussed options with them prior to this memo.
They have told him he is unlikely to achieve any legal remedy to this mandate in the time allotted for it to happen and that the Biden DOJ will simply come after him in another court immediately for a reversal if they were successful in the first place.
What would you do? You have people you employ that depend upon their income to feed, clothe, and house their families. You need them at work producing a product on which many rely.
You're further told that the Biden administration is largely rejecting religious and medical waivers related to the vaccine.
There is a time to fight big government and a time to keep your powder dry and plan a strategy.
Let's hope that Hornady, who is not an idiot or liberal hack, is planning his next move.
You might want to cut him a little slack.
RMD
And by using OSHA to enforce it, OSHA can shut the company down for damn near anything they want to.
October 31, 2021, 07:06 PM
kimber1911quote:
Originally posted by kimber1911:
Yes this is real.
I am with a company over 100 employees.
Looks like Religious Exemption is not going to be approved. I provided additional documentation based on my religious beliefs and now waiting for a response.
I don’t anticipate that my company will recognize my religious beliefs, which are solid and yes true and sincere.
Expect to be unemployed by end of month.
Still waiting for a determination.
My guess is they are waiting to submit one big batch of Religious and Medical Exemptions to an outside entity in an effort to avoid any liability.
Started off thinking I had a 50/50 chance of keeping my job.
Now thinking I have better than even odds as no further request for information or documentation has been requested.
“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
Pres. Select, Joe Biden
“Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 October 31, 2021, 10:24 PM
dry-flyquote:
Originally posted by 357fuzz:
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Has anyone here gauged reactions in other gun forums?
I have not. Of the few sites I visit once in a while I have not seen anything about it.
I’ve seen several videos about the subject on various YouTube gun channels.
"Attack life, it's going to kill you anyway." Steve McQueen...
November 01, 2021, 12:57 AM
BBMWAnyone see stacks of Hornady ammo sitting in gun stores unbought because of the boycott?
November 01, 2021, 05:48 AM
RichardCquote:
Originally posted by BBMW:
Anyone see stacks of Hornady ammo sitting in gun stores unbought because of the boycott?
Because of price. They've been there a long time.
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November 01, 2021, 06:05 AM
Blume9mmSeems gun people are all about personal freedom and employees rights....sometimes...
So, I'm working at Hornady in their machining shop and they tell me I need to wear safety glasses.... or even better I have to keep the shield on the milling tool to protect not only me but my fellow workers... how dare they violate my rights!
What... an employer telling workers they have to do something ....
Let's all take a knee ..... and protest this outrage!
My Native American Name:
"Runs with Scissors"
November 01, 2021, 06:50 AM
bcereussReally? Equating forced medical procedures against one’s will with workplace safety?
November 01, 2021, 06:52 AM
mutedbladequote:
Originally posted by Blume9mm:
What... an employer telling workers they have to do something ....
How dare us for not relenting to the agenda driven by propaganda
. There's more to this than just taking a "vaccine". Injecting aborted fetal tissue into your body because YOU chose to is one thing. Having the boss man come along and telling you to do it for the good of the company is a whole other monster. But hey, you knew this already
Para done told your ass!
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November 01, 2021, 07:29 AM
GraniteguyComparing safety glasses to an experimental vaccine - brilliant.
November 01, 2021, 07:31 AM
rtquigIs this the truth? It claims there is no mandate now.
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November 01, 2021, 07:37 AM
kidcopquote:
Originally posted by Blume9mm:
Seems gun people are all about personal freedom and employees rights....sometimes...
So, I'm working at Hornady in their machining shop and they tell me I need to wear safety glasses.... or even better I have to keep the shield on the milling tool to protect not only me but my fellow workers... how dare they violate my rights!
What... an employer telling workers they have to do something ....
Let's all take a knee ..... and protest this outrage!
I hear you, but it won't resonate in the echo chamber.
November 01, 2021, 08:26 AM
Gustoferquote:
Originally posted by mutedblade:
Injecting aborted fetal tissue into your body because YOU chose to is one thing. Having the boss man come along and telling you to do it for the good of the company is a whole other monster.
The vaccines do NOT contain aborted fetal tissue.
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"Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton.
November 01, 2021, 08:53 AM
LoungeChairquote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:
quote:
Originally posted by mutedblade:
Injecting aborted fetal tissue into your body because YOU chose to is one thing. Having the boss man come along and telling you to do it for the good of the company is a whole other monster.
The vaccines do NOT contain aborted fetal tissue.
Unless you were one of the 15,400 taking part of the clinical trial, nor are they experimental.
-Loungechair