I love dogs, but this emotional support bullshit needs to stop. If you can't fly on your own, then be in the cargo level, or wherever they put the animals, with your dog.
Sue their asses off, both the dog owner and Delta.

http://airport.blog.ajc.com/20...ger-on-delta-flight/

Emotional support dog bites passenger on Delta flight

Kelly Yamanouchi
Updated: June 5, 2017


A passenger on a Delta Air lines flight was bitten by another passenger’s emotional support dog.


The incident happened Sunday during boarding of Flight 1430 at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport, on a Boeing 737-900ER bound for San Diego.

“During the boarding process, a passenger’s emotional support animal bit another passenger,” said Delta spokesman Anthony Black.

The incident was first reported by Fox 5, which quoted a passenger who said: “The gentleman’s face was completely bloody…. his shirt was covered in blood.”

The flight was delayed while both passengers and the dog got off the plane.

A police report said the victim, Marlin Termaine Jackson of Daphne, Ala., was transported to the hospital “in stable condition, but severe injury to the face due to several dog bites.”

The police report listed the dog’s owner, Ronald Kevin Mundy Jr. of Mills River, N.C., as a military service member with the U.S. Marine Corps who “advised that the dog was issued to him for support.” The dog is listed in the police report as a “chocolate lab pointer mix.”

The dog was secured inside a dog crate and released to Mundy, who was not charged, according to the police report. He was allowed to fly with his dog in the kennel, according to Delta.

When asked whether the incident may influence any change in policies, Black said: “We are currently examining the details of the event but have no updates at this time.”

Delta’s website says it “complies with the Air Carrier Access Act by allowing customers traveling with emotional support animals or psychiatric service animals to travel without charge” if they comply with certain conditions and provide required documentation.

The animal “must be trained to behave properly in public settings as service animals do,” according to Delta’s website. “A kennel is not required for emotional support animals if they are fully trained and meet same requirements as a service animal.”

Yeah this 'service animal' stuff is getting out of control. To be a service animal ought to require a standard of training and performance certified. Anything else is just a pet.

I'm getting severely fed-up with this crap. I hope this helps put an end to it. These stupid people and their animals that have to go with them everywhere...just stop it.

The other day I was in Walmart with my one year old daughter who was walking around, and a man came walking down the aisle with a rottweiler in tow with a service dog vest on it. Yeah right.
I wasn't comfortable with that at all.

Is there a difference between a service dog and a emotional support critter?

yes

service animals perform a legitimate function - such as looking for bodies after an earthquake or tornado

I have no problem with service animals

real service animals

this emotional support bullshit has to stop - if you're that fucking fragile, don't ever leave your bedroom

The dog owner will need emotional support when the lawsuit begins. Multiple bites on the face sound more like an attack than a defensive bite but there may be more to the story.

Call me old fashioned, but I'd like the "report" to have a little more info such as how it happened. I am doubtful the lab mix just went full retard and repeatedly jumped up to bite the guy in the face.

Did the bitee get in the dog's space? Did the dog perceive him as a threat for some reason? Was the dog on a leash?

Really hard to make sense of it and decide what level of outrage I should have when the only thing reported is the outcome...

I think I had one of these as a kid. It was a little stuffed orca that I slept w/ till about 6 years of age.

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Originally posted by 911Boss:

Did the bitee get in the dog's space? Did the dog perceive him as a threat for some reason? Was the dog on a leash?

There is no "space" on a plane any more. They are all packed to the gills. And as an "emotional support dog", do not think threat should be an issue as it's not a protection dog.

I need an emotional support .45. Can I take it on the plane?

Yes, this is my emotional support female, she must travel with me to keep me calm. Yes her ticket to the Bahamas will be free right?

To the face, huh?
Wth.

Went to see a movie last week and while exiting I see a GSD with a vest on and it was some lady.
A real service dog has tags on the vest. She had bought some bs on the internet. I've worked service animals, SAR, Schutzhund, um no lady that is not a service animal.

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Originally posted by Poacher:

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Originally posted by 911Boss:

Did the bitee get in the dog's space? Did the dog perceive him as a threat for some reason? Was the dog on a leash?

There is no "space" on a plane any more. They are all packed to the gills. And as an "emotional support dog", do not think threat should be an issue as it's not a protection dog.

I need an emotional support .45. Can I take it on the plane?

Yep. Space? What space? More info below. The dog is 50 lb Lab retriever mix, not a small poodle, and was sitting in his owner's lap in the middle seat. The victim was in the window seat.

https://petrescuereport.com/20...senger-delta-flight/

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An emotional support dog bit a passenger on a Delta flight originating from Atlanta’s Hartsfield-Jackson International airport bound for San Diego. The event occurred on Saturday aboard a 737-900 aircraft before push back; the dog attacked a passenger in the next seat resulting in the passenger having been treated for his injuries.

According to FoxNewsAtlanta, the dog, thought to be a Labrador retriever mix weighing about 50 pounds, had been sitting on his owner’s lap in the middle seat; the victim had been sitting by the window. A witness stated the dog owner was very upset and inconsolable. The flight crew described the dog’s owner as a “combat veteran” and as he hugged his dog in his arms at the gate area, the crew said he cried repeatedly stating, “I know they’re going to put him down.” Local law enforcement cleared the dog and its owner to continue their flight. The dog was ordered to fly in a kennel.

As for requirements needed to travel with an emotional support dog, an ESA letter is required at the time of booking (Emotional Support Animal). All dogs are also required to behave in public and be calm on the plane. The documentation must come from a medical doctor or a licensed mental health professional. According to the company’s website,

“Delta Airlines recommends an early notification about traveling with animals when booking reservations and you can already request for a seat assignment while doing so. The animal, however, will be required to stay on the floor beside the individual’s seat. As stated in the company’s site, ‘No animals are allowed to occupy seats that are designed for passengers.'”

The condition of the bite victim nor the extent of his injuries are known at this time.

I see this shit on a lot of Veteran sites. Seem like everybody has to have a damn dog.

Just wait until muhammed finds a way to shove some C4 up fido's ass and blows the whole fucking plane up...
Then this shit will get real

I could give a flying shit about the "rest of the story" dog bit human/ put fucking dog down... now, right now
its an animal, NOT human, get it? or are people so confused any more?

Next...

I feel bad for the victim. I love dogs but do not want one sitting next to me on a plane. Don't even like humans sitting that close to me on a plane.

I even like Delta but I hope this costs them a lot of money; so much money that all these pooches go in the cargo hold where they belong.

I also like dogs but when people bring them into a grocery store and put them in a grocery cart, well, I'm just grossed out. It's disgusting. I'm not talking about a teacup in the baby seat, I'm talking about a Labrador in the main buggy. I found out the Walmart manager can no longer even ask if the dog has service papers. Apparently, it's offensive.

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Originally posted by charlie12:
I see this shit on a lot of Veteran sites. Seem like everybody has to have a damn dog.

So what's the consensus among veterans on this stuff? Does it matter if you're battle-hardened flag officer that's been in since Vietnam vs. a specialist that did a tour in the sandbox, never left the green zone, and mustered out as soon as possible?

From what I can observe as a civilian who never wore a uniform (my life's biggest regret) and has obviously never experienced combat or anything close, I have no trouble whatsoever believing that it is hell. However, I've grown up surrounded by military (mostly officers) and I don't know anyone with PTSD - or at least I don't know that I do.

Is PTSD the military version of autism (popular disorder of the day and accordingly overdiagnosed), or are things somehow worse than they were before, or was it all just underdiagnosed/ignored before (I know it was to some degree), or is it the quality of the people that has been on a decline, leading to the trouble we see now? (I see plenty of stories that make me think we have a snowflake problem in the military.) A combination of the above?

I'm very curious as to the opinion of our uniformed members (past and present) here.

-Rob

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Originally posted by 911Boss:
Call me old fashioned, but I'd like the "report" to have a little more info such as how it happened. I am doubtful the lab mix just went full retard and repeatedly jumped up to bite the guy in the face.

Did the bitee get in the dog's space? Did the dog perceive him as a threat for some reason? Was the dog on a leash?

Really hard to make sense of it and decide what level of outrage I should have when the only thing reported is the outcome...

What, are you kidding me? That animal has no business being on that airplane in the first place. The dog's space? What a joke.

There is a tremendous difference between a certified service dog, which receives extensive training and testing for certification, and an "emotional support animal", which requires nothing more than a letter from a medical authority. Certified service dogs serve important, lifesaving functions. Diabetic alert dogs, seeing eye dogs, physical aid dogs, PTSD dogs, allow people with disabilities to go out and lead more normal lives when they otherwise could not. Certified service dogs are by law unrestricted. They are the ones you see in restaurants and they have credentials. A true service dog would never bite because of the training and testing that is done on them.

In my view the emotional support animal trend is nothing but a sham. Your emotional support animal can be a duck, a pig, a goat, a snake-whatever you decide it is. There is no certification requirement, which is a large part of the problem. ESA's give snowflakes the opportunity to demonstrate "look at me, I'm special" without having to go through the rigors of training and certification with their critter du jour.

I have a close friend who is an airline captain who tells me the ESA thing has gotten out of hand and his airplane sometimes looks like Noah's Ark. But they are not allowed to turn a passenger away with an ESA unless there is an obvious safety problem. We recently heard a story about an ESA escaping its crate and invading the cockpit before takeoff. I knew for myself it was out of control when I recently observed a toy poodle taking a shit in the middle of an airline terminal near my gate. I think FAA needs to do something about this nonsense with tighter regulations.