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Wow. It's been awhile I guess. I suppose I'm used to watching at least 1080p content, sometimes UHD content.

I attached an old blu-ray player; just to test function, I inserted a formerly familiar DVD (Stargate).

Incredible we were ever satisfied with such horrible picture quality.




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Lol - i have 480p version of Top Gun and Tombstone.

More grain a full silo.






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Yea, some old TV shows on YouTube look awful.

Generally, we were viewing on much smaller screens...
Like blowing up a low res photo to a much larger size.

Also, could it be some resampling, upscaling of non native resolutions making them worse???



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It might look better on a CRT monitor.
 
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I'm the opposite. I watch a lot of older movies, especially horror and exploitation B-movies from the '60s to the '80s. I'm used to them looking kinda faded with grain and film scratches, like Tarantino and Rodriguez intentionally added to their Grindhouse movies.

Companies like Shout Factory and Vinegar Syndrome are releasing these vintage cult movies all cleaned up with 4K transfers and they just look too sharp and colorful. They look like modern movies—it feels kinda wrong. Like, the first time I saw Night of the Living Dead was a faded scratchy hissy public domain print on a late night PBS station. To see it crystal clear in HD takes some of the creepy atmosphere away from it.
 
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You want bad? Pop in a copy of a movie you recorded on VHS from the early 80s...




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I noticed that as well recently. I'm guessing it was because we were watching on a 36" CRT "big screen" and not a GIGANTIC flat screen.




 
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We were satisfied with the quality because we'd never seen anything better, so it was outstanding...at the time.

Kind like when everyone knew that nobody would ever need more than 1MB of hard drive.
 
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They look like modern movies—it feels kinda wrong. Like, the first time I saw Night of the Living Dead was a faded scratchy hissy public domain print on a late night PBS station. To see it crystal clear in HD takes some of the creepy atmosphere away from it.



^^^ Exactly

I like the old movies, TV shows (especially the Westerns) to be in B&W.
Of course they are in lower res as well.
I despise the transition period of the the mid 60's when they went to color.
I can't imagine watching the Rifleman, Maverick or early Gunsmoke in color. Frown

Of course new high res stuff is awesome.
Just replaced an 12 year old Samsung 1080P Plasma with a new Samsung Nano QLED 8K.
Spectacular but it need the right content and blown up old SD is only meh - those are just as good on an old set - on any set really.
 
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It might look better on a CRT monitor.


Yep. Lower resolutions look better on CRT displays, due to their method of displaying the image using more loosely spaced lines instead of closely packed individual pixels, plus the smaller screen size overall.
 
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It’s called NTSC





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Try watching a VHS cassette. I used to have 5 channels over an antenna (NOT an HD one). Good times!


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Bruh, 480p was an upgrade for most people in the DVD era.

Most people didn't have the required RGB cables for 480p. 99 percent of DVD players shipped with the single Yellow cord for video, and red/white for audio. 480 interlaced, baby.
 
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I treated myself this year to a 4K UHD Samsung TV. I was surprised how clear the pockmarks on actors' faces are.



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It’s called NTSC


AKA, never twice the same color.
 
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Originally posted by SIGnified:
It’s called NTSC


AKA, never twice the same color.


Good one !!!





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At some point in next several years the broadcasters are going to be required to move to ATSC 3.0, AKA NextGen TV, which brings OTA TV to 4k. And will again force all of us OTA watchers to buy at least another set-top box since the present ATSC 1.0 will sunset.

So, yes, we are really leaving 480p in the dust. And I'm afraid there's no good way to get those really old Johnny Carson episodes to look any better at the moment.

FWIW, NTSC is not the same as 480p. NTSC is the old color interlaces analog (not digital) standard with 525 interlaced scan lines, not all of which were visible.

There's NTSC, there's 480i and there's 480p. All different. About the only thing in common is roughly the same number of visible lines.


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