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What Type of Raptor is This?

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January 14, 2024, 01:42 PM
h2oys
What Type of Raptor is This?
This guy was in our dogwood tree just about 5’ from my front door. Quick internet research seems to rule out a red tailed hawk and Cooper’s hawk as the internet pics don’t look like him/her.




January 14, 2024, 02:11 PM
sigmonkey
Juvenile Merlin?




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January 14, 2024, 02:13 PM
drill sgt
Beautiful bird.... probably looking for a snack.. .............................. drill sgt.
January 14, 2024, 02:24 PM
hooch
Maybe a sharped shinned.
January 14, 2024, 03:11 PM
Mars_Attacks
Cold.

Bring him in.


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January 14, 2024, 07:51 PM
Lineman101
iPhone has a new feature called Visual Lookup. It supposed to be able to identify all types of stuff. Birds are included in the list
https://www.tomsguide.com/news/ios-17-visual-look-up
I hope it helps?


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January 14, 2024, 08:12 PM
Skins2881
Not a Ford 150, they have completely different markings.



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January 14, 2024, 08:25 PM
ARman
IDK, looks like a young Red Tailed Hawk to me.

I have a few Cooper's hawk, Red Tail hawks and Red Shoulder hawks, American Kestrel, Bald Eagle, Osprey, Peregrine Falcon, around here, and though I'm not an expert in any bird ID, that looks like a young Red Tailed Hawk to me.

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January 14, 2024, 08:28 PM
pace40
Maybe an Osprey just passing through?


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January 14, 2024, 08:38 PM
SJS
Looks like a Red Tail to me.


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January 14, 2024, 08:41 PM
DoctorSolo
quote:
Originally posted by Skins2881:
Not a Ford 150, they have completely different markings.


Beat me to it.

quote:
Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
Cold.

Bring him in.


I get the sentiment but how does one do that, exactly?
January 14, 2024, 08:51 PM
chellim1
We “raised” a group of Red Shoulder hawks in the white oaks at our house two years ago.
Looks similar. Or a young Red Tailed Hawk.



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January 15, 2024, 01:56 AM
Oregon
We had one that looked exactly like that in our tree. The best guess after a bunch of online sleuthing was that it was a juvenile Red Tailed Hawk.


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January 15, 2024, 03:19 AM
trapper189
Juvenile red shouldered hawk.
January 15, 2024, 04:22 AM
frayedends
When I posted this a couple years ago I was told a juvenile Red Tail. Does not look the same as yours.






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January 15, 2024, 06:30 AM
smlsig
My guess goes to a female Coopers Hawk.


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January 15, 2024, 06:40 AM
h2oys
quote:
Originally posted by Lineman101:
iPhone has a new feature called Visual Lookup. It supposed to be able to identify all types of stuff. Birds are included in the list
https://www.tomsguide.com/news/ios-17-visual-look-up
I hope it helps?



I always wondered what “look up” meant when you touched a picture. It immediately took me to a red tailed hawk for which the online pics looked much more like my visitor than the pics I found yesterday.

Hence I believe he/she was a red tailed hawk.

Thank you all for your suggestions!
January 15, 2024, 09:39 AM
gw3971
Red-Shouldered Hawk
January 15, 2024, 03:40 PM
trapper189
I don’t believe Apple’s AI algorithm knows the difference between juvenile hawks of the red-tailed, red-shouldered, and Cooper’s variety.

In fact, I just figured out how to turn on that feature on my phone. My phone says your pictures are a red-shouldered hawk. My son’s phone says it’s a Cooper’s hawk. Go figure.

The eyes are the wrong color for a red-tailed or Copper’s. The evenly spaced teardrop markings on the chest don’t seem right for a red-tailed whose brown chest markings look like a vest.

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January 15, 2024, 05:23 PM
bendable
A while back I spotted a hawk on the cross arm of a pole. ,

I stopped and watched it for nine minutes.

I watched grab a lunch ,
Through the 8 power bino's it
Looked like a three or four ounce fur bearing something.

When it flew iff I paced the distance off, it came out to between 60 and 75 feet.

I understand that they probably watch for movement.
But that is very astonishing.
That ability.





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