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Arby's Wagyu Beef Burger
June 01, 2022, 05:44 PM
Balzé HalzéArby's Wagyu Beef Burger
Basically, the bottom line is stop calling it Wagyu beef. Cause it ain't.
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sigspecopsLast weekend I saw two wagyu steaks at Costco for $200. I'm thinking that's probably not what's in Arby's burger.
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June 01, 2022, 06:01 PM
Blume9mmDang it, now I got to try one.... and I understand the meat is not going to be anything close to a $100 steak.... but then I have no desire to eat a $100 steak... I suspect it would be very good but I'm having a hard time believing it would be that good. I know Ruth Chris's has steaks on their menu for over a hundred bucks but even if somebody paid for it I think I'd probably be disappointed
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June 01, 2022, 06:30 PM
rbrng9mmThe spokesperson for Arbys drives me nuts and has done so for years. I would rather have a peanut butter sandwich.
June 01, 2022, 07:59 PM
drill sgtEven if the wagyu beef burger was offered "FREE" I would decline and order and pay for a "Rueben" sandwich. ................ drill sgt.
June 01, 2022, 08:25 PM
Jimbo JonesProbably like that "Kona" labeled coffee at Costco that has like 2% Kona beans in the bag...
But I'll try the Arby's burger...I like a lot of their other stuff.
Have loved Arby's ever since my fam took me as a child to the one on Federal Highway in Pompano Beach FL that had the giant cowboy hat sign.
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Basically, the bottom line is stop calling it Wagyu beef. Cause it ain't.
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June 01, 2022, 08:27 PM
trapper189quote:
Originally posted by Flash-LB:
I do know that what I had was an outstanding burger…
I had no idea these were out there, but I’m going to try one. So thank you for sharing your experience. It’s a $6-$8 burger, I promise not to analyze the snot out of it.
June 01, 2022, 09:10 PM
Pipe Smokerquote:
Originally posted by Flash-LB:
For those who scoff, you haven't tried it or perhaps your local Arby's did it wrong, who knows. I do know that what I had was an outstanding burger, just about the same as the burgers that Drysdale's II used to serve before they went out of business.
Yes obviously I'm eating American Wagyu, and there is such a thing.
The stuff I buy comes from SRF (Snake River Farms) and here's what they say about Wagyu.
https://www.snakeriverfarms.com/kobe-vs-wagyuWHAT IS WAGYU?
Wagyu is a Japanese cattle breed that produces intensely marbled beef. Bona fide Wagyu is rare and carefully guarded. The breed is unique in that it continues to add intramuscular fat as the cattle grows.
When crossbred with other non-Wagyu cattle breeds, it yields American Wagyu which features rich marbling and the traditional beef flavor preferred by American palates.
SNAKE RIVER FARMS STORY
We maintain purebred Wagyu cow and bull herds from renowned Japanese bloodlines.
These imported cattle are the foundation of our Snake River Farms program.
We have been improving our herd since 1989.
WHAT IS AMERICAN WAGYU BEEF?
These purebred Wagyu are crossed with traditional beef cattle breeds to create American Wagyu Beef.
The result is a perfect blend of famous Wagyu buttery marbling and the robust beef flavor that American beef is known for.
It is the best of both worlds.
"It has the richness of Japanese beef with lots of marbling, but the flavor is more akin to what we're used to in America. You can give me a pound of the best Wagyu from Japan, or a pound of this, and I'll choose Snake River Farms every time."
- Chef Wolfgang Puck
And no, I'm not affiliated with SRF in any way. I don't even own stock in them, I just like their product.
Thanks for your post Flash. It’s informative and objective.
Serious about crackers June 01, 2022, 11:11 PM
cparktdWe tried it a couple days ago. Did not like it. Very ordinary at best. Ours were almost burnt on the outside and raw in the center. Taste was rather bland. We had the bacon ranch version. Even the bacon was subpar. Actually we both threw almost half of ours away rather than eat them. I will not be trying another one.
If it ain't woke... don't fix it. June 02, 2022, 12:14 AM
PASigIf you ask me, these places all need to stay in their lane and just do what they’re known best for.
People aren’t going to Arby’s for burgers just as they didn’t go to McDonalds for pizza which they failed miserably at.
The Wawa convenience store chain in this area makes a somewhat decent hoagie for the money but now they’re trying to do pasta and burgers. Stop…just stop!
June 02, 2022, 01:16 AM
Patenquote:
Originally posted by PASig:
The Wawa convenience store chain in this area makes a somewhat decent hoagie for the money but now they’re trying to do pasta and burgers. Stop…just stop!
I actually don't like the hoagie sandwiches at Wawa. I go there most nights on the way to work. I usually get a Stacked sandwich or a beef steak mac and cheese bowl. I love their milkshakes though. Just can't have one of those everyday.
Will have to try one of the Arby's burgers when I find my self near a franchise. I'm sure it's only for a limited time though.
June 02, 2022, 08:09 AM
bettysnephewWas at Arby's the other day and saw Wagyu burger on menu. Underneath in small letters it said cooked medium well done. Like my burgers not cooked so far but ordered one to try it. It was well done and somewhat dry. At best an average burger. Will not order again.
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June 02, 2022, 08:39 AM
lymanquote:
Originally posted by konata88:
I'm not sure what wagyu made in the US is. It it just the breed of cow but raised like any other cattle?
Wagyu in Japan has different levels. And different regions of fame. Wagyu really just means "Japanese beef" and so it's not really clear what wagyu from OR (for example) really means.
But agree with Balze, wagyu in Japan is not the same as the "wagyu" raised and sold here with the exception of beef sold here that was imported from real wagyu source from Japan.
Also, I'm wondering if the term wagyu is getting diluted and corrupted to just mean beef from Japan; not all beef in Japan is really wagyu. A lot of beef in Japan is just common beef as we would buy here.
I'm on a budget but not necessarily poor. I've had Japanese wagyu only twice in my life using personal funds. I've had American "wagyu" a handful of times with personal funds - still expensive (at least ribeye / NY cuts) at $40-50/pound but that's still less than half the price of real Japanese wagyu.
Makes me wonder what cut Arby's is using, even if it's American "wagyu" -[b[ what's the cheapest cut you could use for burgers and how much would that be per pound[/b]?
speaking as someone that was a butcher for 19 yrs,
there is no cut, at least at grocery store level, that was used for ground anything, except one
it was all trim,
so your chuck trim went into ground chuck
round (tip, eye, top, bottom etc) went into ground round, and anything else including the above went into ground beef,
as far as lean content
ground beef was the most fat
Chuck, next
Round, next
Sirlion next, moving up the chart as far as % lean
to clarify, back in the day, when meat was cut in stores, there was a lot of trim,
chucks, for example, were bone in, (and included the chuck shoulder)
or boneless (packaged as Shoulders, or Chuck Rolls,)
the rolls were 2 to 4 in a box, and had a lot of excess meat attached that was made into stew, or ground, mostly ground,
ditto Round meats,
back in the 90's packing companies found they could make more money by trimming the primals up to 'block ready' as in less if any trim at store level, and grind the excess themselves into a course or fine gring chub that was processed at store level
benefit was the store took less liability for contamination, and it was easier to process,
less trim means less time for a butcher (high payroll) and if burger was needed a clerk (less payroll) could run 10# chubs thru the grinder for the case
exceptions were Shanks,, that is the one cut that was ordered in , peeled off the bone, and ground for ground beef,
and they have plenty of grissle
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June 02, 2022, 02:36 PM
Flash-LBquote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Basically, the bottom line is stop calling it Wagyu beef. Cause it ain't.
Okay, let's go with that logic.
That being the case, since most of the food Mexican restaurants serve here in the States isn't like what's served in Mexico, we have to stop calling it Mexican food.
The same is true of Italian food here Chinese food here and Japanese food here. And yes, I've had authentic Chinese, Japanese, Italian and Mexican food I know what we get here isn't authentic.
From there, we can nitpick pizza and philly cheesesteak and so on ad infinitum.
There are others, but that's enough for now.
June 02, 2022, 03:10 PM
VgexWagyu inspired*
We thought about Wagyu when making this burger. Lol.
June 02, 2022, 03:12 PM
jhe888I'm glad the OP enjoyed the burger, and I like a fast-food burger as much as the next guy.
All I meant was that is what it is - a fast food burger. This ain't Lutece.
The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. June 02, 2022, 03:25 PM
Flash-LBI've had 5 guys, In-N-Out, Mcdonalds, Wendys, Smashburger, Habit Burger, Burger King essentially all of the big name burgers and I like this one better.
Been thinking about it, though, and a thought came to me. Most people haven't eaten Japanese Wagyu or American Wagyu (which is a good way to differentiate the two) and it doesn't taste like your normal beef, whether it be tenderloin, strips or Rib eye. It has a different texture and a different flavor.
I eat it often and so I know and like the flavor. It's possible others taste it and it just doesn't taste like hamburger and so they don't like it. People resist change.
June 02, 2022, 04:02 PM
sjtillIt sounds pretty good and worth trying--except for the American "cheese".
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June 02, 2022, 05:06 PM
DoctorSoloI love Arby's.
Thank you for the heads-up, I'm gonna cram one of these in my cram-hole tomorrow!
June 02, 2022, 05:27 PM
12131All this talk of food and beef and burger and not a single pic. Fail!
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