The Pope that resigned

November 18, 2017, 06:22 PM

What ever happened to him?? does he get all the bennies of a Pope, or is he a persona non grata?

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November 18, 2017, 06:31 PM

H&K-Guy

I've always wondered that. He said he was retiring "for prayer and self reflection", or something like that.

Sounds kinda' fishy to me. Makes you wonder what really is going on.

I know we don't much pick on peoples appearance here, but Pope Benedict XVI looked exactly like Senator Palpatine. Just saying'.

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November 18, 2017, 07:35 PM

sjtill

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does he get all the Bennies of a Pope

Seriously, I wish his successor would follow the good Benedict's example. Christmas would be a good time.

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November 18, 2017, 08:03 PM

2BobTanner

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Originally posted by H&K-Guy:
I've always wondered that. He said he was retiring "for prayer and self reflection", or something like that.

Sounds kinda' fishy to me. Makes you wonder what really is going on.

I know we don't much pick on peoples appearance here, but Pope Benedict XVI looked exactly like Senator Palpatine. Just saying'.

H&K-Guy

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November 19, 2017, 04:13 PM

SIGnified

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Originally posted by Fenris:
I miss Benedict. He abandoned us to a GDC. Kind of like if Trump resigned and we got the Hildabeast.

He left happily/willingly ... or was he moved outta the way for the GDC?

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November 19, 2017, 10:53 PM

nhracecraft

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Originally posted by Fenris:
I miss Benedict. He abandoned us to a GDC. Kind of like if Trump resigned and we got the Hildabeast.

I miss Pope John Paul II

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November 20, 2017, 05:05 AM

DennisM

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Originally posted by nhracecraft:
quote:
Originally posted by Fenris:
I miss Benedict. He abandoned us to a GDC. Kind of like if Trump resigned and we got the Hildabeast.

I miss Pope John Paul II

Amen.

November 20, 2017, 07:36 AM

chellim1

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Originally posted by SIGnified:
quote:
Originally posted by Fenris:
I miss Benedict. He abandoned us to a GDC. Kind of like if Trump resigned and we got the Hildabeast.

He left happily/willingly ... or was he moved outta the way for the GDC?

We will never know what went on behind the closed doors of the curia. Makes for interesting speculation though because I do not like or trust the GDC, Francis.

I, too, miss Pope John Paul II. He understood the evils of socialism/communism.

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

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November 20, 2017, 09:05 AM

RogueJSK

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Originally posted by chellim1:
I, too, miss Pope John Paul II. He understood the evils of socialism/communism.

Firsthand experience, having grown up in a free, independent Poland in the '20s and '30s, then suffering under the yoke of Communism in the late '40s, '50s, 60s, and '70s.

November 20, 2017, 10:53 AM

jhe888

Or maybe Benedict felt that he wasn't cut out to be Pope. Or wasn't in good health. Or felt that God was not calling him to be Pope. It may well not have been clear who would be the new pope.

In other words, there may have been nothing nefarious about his resignation.

The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything.

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November 20, 2017, 11:49 AM

jhe888

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Originally posted by SIGnified:
When was the last time a pope willingly stepped down? Isn’t it rather highly unusual?

It is obviously unusual. Most popes die in office. That means it is unusual, not evil. The church is very closed mouthed, and I know that engenders speculation of all kinds, but that still doesn't mean we know more than we actually know.

I didn't say there isn't a bad motive, just that we can't say that there was. I realize speculating about a bad motive is more fun and is human nature, though.

The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything.

November 20, 2017, 11:57 AM

JALLEN

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Originally posted by jhe888:
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Originally posted by SIGnified:
When was the last time a pope willingly stepped down? Isn’t it rather highly unusual?

It is obviously unusual. Most popes die in office. That means it is unusual, not evil. The church is very closed mouthed, and I know that engenders speculation of all kinds, but that still doesn't mean we know more than we actually know.

I didn't say there isn't a bad motive, just that we can't say that there was. I realize speculating about a bad motive is more fun and is human nature, though.

Maybe the administrative workload expected of a Pope makes the job less desirable for some who prefer to “judge not, lest ye be judged.”