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A Tale of Two Stories. Which ending is most likely to occur? “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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The same is true here in America. The reason so many people believe words are violence, and being offended is injury, is the safety and prosperity so many have enjoyed. People are awfully comfortable dictating their world view down to others from atop their ivory towers. Where they decree from inside their gated community that only the government should have guns. When people are content to give their government a monopoly on force, they have forgotten history or never learned it. Worse, believe it can't happen again. I think soft people want to be ruled. They want to be told what to do, protected, while having no responsibility for their own well being. This is the root of the appeal of socialism. By existing, you have your right to your share of everything, without any of your own effort. Arc. ______________________________ "Like a bitter weed, I'm a bad seed"- Johnny Cash "I'm a loner, Dottie. A rebel." - Pee Wee Herman Rode hard, put away wet. RIP JHM "You're a junkyard dog." - Lupe Flores. RIP | |||
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Liberalism is a communicable disease | |||
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Brother, truer words have never been spoken. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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^^^ I completely agree. Hitler had plans to invade Switzerland in WWII. (Then the eastern front he opened made plans a tad difficult.) After the war, the Swiss discovered the plans and studied them carefully. They concluded that Hitler would have succeeded. Thus began their self-protective militarization, including arming and training almost every Swiss citizen. If the Swiss can become fat and stupid and begin to give up their guns, of course the same is true in America. "I think soft people want to be ruled. They want to be told what to do, protected, while having no responsibility for their own well being." Absolutely true. Soft people are basically infantile.This message has been edited. Last edited by: justjoe, ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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This is not correct regarding the Swiss plan of self-protective militarization. From an article by Dave Kopel entitled The Swiss and their Guns, he states: "From the very first years of Swiss independence, the Swiss were commanded to keep and bear arms. After 1515. Switzerland adopted a policy of armed neutrality." This was way before WWII. | |||
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It still is and will be. The changes in law will not influence the SIG full auto rifles the Swiss Goverment is issuing to its serving citizens. All, active and retired members will keep their personal weapon. | |||
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Looking it up, in fact a special clause was inserted into the EU directive so Switzerland could keep doing this. Which ironically was one of the grounds on which the Czech Republic sued against the amendment of the directive before the European Court of Justice, considering it a discriminatory exception. Though I think their suit has a much better chance of succeeding on the issue of institutional overreach, since the EU Commission has no competence on public security. Yet the explicit reason for amending the directive, which originally was issued in 1991 to regulate firearms trade in the Single Market, was stated to be preventing terrorist attacks like in Paris, where some of the guns used were reactivated de-acts or assembled from seperately-sourced parts. | |||
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Indeed. As we discuss history, the story of the Old Swiss Confederacy and the Peace of Westphalia got Switzerland out from under the Holy Roman Empire. Unfortunately, the Thirty Year War and a guy named Napoleon resulted in a bitch slap of remembrance and re-hardened the views of independence. Up until the concept of tourism during the Victorian age, Switzerland was an impoverished mountain region of Europe. | |||
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It boils down to the number of people that were afraid of losing Schengen and certain trade opportunities was greater than the number that were most concerned with keeping their current firearms rights. Harshest Dream, Reality | |||
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Hitler planned to tunnel through a mountain and invade with infantry, artillery and tanks. The tunnel was actually begun. Paratroopers would be inserted to hit specific strategic targets. This would happen on the Swiss National Day, August 1, when everybody is drunk and celebrating with firecrackers, etc. This had a profound effect on the Swiss when they learned of Hitler's plans. If you know Swiss history, you should know that. They redoubled their self-defense programs and -- until this latest blunder-- remained staunchly committed to home defense. ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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^^^^ Only one mountain??? Have you ever been to Switzerland? Any other insight besides he planned to invade with the normal compliments? Hitler's paratroop regiments were woefully depleted after invading Sicily so that would have been a no-go. Even if it proceeded that theater, given the inaccuracy of airborne drops in those days, I think the drunk Swiss would heartily toast the many dead paratroopers who found out they were dropped next to peaks/valleys that would quickly separate lives and equipment. | |||
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I spent a lot of time in Switzerland. There are mountains there? I didn't notice. Must have been cloudy. Hitler never did invade. He had 3 or 4 separate plans. The Russian front was the biggest reason he never acted on any of them. I don't know what point you are making. That you are a very smart guy. Much smarter than I. Okay. My point was that, as Arc said, and darthfuster, people get soft when they have been comfortable a long time. That point is relevant to the thread. How smart you are is not relevant. Though I, for one, am really impressed. But, by the way, it is "preceded" not "proceeded." ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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I always liked the story of a German General asking a Swiss dignitary what the Swiss Army would do if they were invaded by a force of 400,00 troops, twice what the Swiss could muster in 48 hours, and the reply was that every man would shoot twice and go home. | |||
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I vaguely remember a quote attributed to Socrates, that half of all mankind was born with a slave mentality. I've been unable to find a source for this quote, but evidence of its veracity surrounds us. -------------------------- Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. -- H L Mencken I always prefer reality when I can figure out what it is. -- JALLEN 10/18/18 | |||
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We are history's trust fund kids. We've inherited this great thing that our grandfathers and great grandfathers built - but do we have the character to keep it? I've forgotten which U.S. Founding Father mentioned it but he was fully aware of the corrosive impact of affluence on liberty. V. | |||
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