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Originally posted by sns3guppy:

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Originally posted by Garret Blaine:
I am not going to argue on a forum about whether it is possible or not, I have no idea but there are many news articles that claim so (of coarse there are unique circumstances like low altitude weather avoindance in some of them).

I'm not going to argue about it, either. It's not like I'd know from first hand experience, after all...

You’re a pilot everybody on the board knows it. However you don’t know anything about me... suffice it to say your not the only one in this thread with experience. But, I’m sure you are correct and every single one of the documented cases are bullshit.

I'm a lot of things; a pilot is one of them.

If your experience includes any altitude training, then you know that five hours at 35,000' and higher at -55 degree temperatures isn't a survivable state.

The kid in Hawaii was walking around, talking. He wasn't in the wheel well.

Go take a few hours altitude training and a ride in an altitude chamber and see what you think.

I'm curious how so many survivors managed to hold on when the floor fell out from under them during the gear up-cycle, then again when they're frozen after five hours at altitude, when the gear doors open to cycle down. Quite a trick.

I've heard a lot of stories about falling out of an airplane and surviving...mostly third hand accounts of a soldier during the second world war whose parachute didn't open, but miraculously landed in snow or a haystack. Great stories. Doesn't make them true.

The kid in hawaii...was sold as having made the trip in the wheel well. He didn't. Great story. It just wasn't true.

Why would anyone think they could survive a flight in an unheated, unpressurized part of a plane flying at 35,000 ft for multiple hours????

He probably lost consciousness a few minutes after takeoff, died of hypoxia soon thereafter and then became frozen solid before falling to earth when the gear was deployed for landing.