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NBC tries to appear balanced.........but too many veiled trigger words and phrases to still let the bias ooze thru...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/u...par-xfinity_20171228
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UPPER MARLBORO, Md. — There are a lot of reasons people love their AR-15 semiautomatic rifles, and it doesn't much matter to them what the haters say.

For some, the gun is a tool, a finely tuned machine that can cut down an animal or intruder, or pierce a distant target, with a single precise shot.

For others, it is a toy, a sleek beast of black plastic and metal that delivers a gratifying blast of adrenaline.

And for many, it is a symbol, the embodiment of core American values — freedom, might, self-reliance.

“There are very few things that serve such a great form and function, and look cool,” said Daniel Chandler, 26, an AR-15 owner here in suburban Maryland. When he takes his AR out of its case at a shooting range, he smiles like he just unwrapped a gift. “There are few things you’ll find that are wonderfully appealing to look at, wonderful exercises in mechanical engineering, and that could save your life.”

This is the side of the AR-15 that many don’t see, or ever consider.

Because an AR-15, or a variant, was used in several mass shootings — including Aurora, Colorado; Newtown, Connecticut; San Bernardino,California; Sutherland Springs, Texas; and Las Vegas, in which a total of 137 people were killed — this civilian sibling of a military assault rifle is an exceptionally polarizing product of modern American industry. The AR-15 and its semiautomatic cousins — they shoot one round for each pull of the trigger ─ incite repulsion among those who see them as excessive, grotesque and having no place on the civilian market.

It is the focus of multiple attempts at prohibition, which in turn has prompted people to run out and buy more. Such “panic buying” drove sales of AR-15s to record levels during the presidency of Barack Obama and the 2016 presidential campaign. Gun merchants say some buyers are also driven by a fascination with a weapon used in notoriously heinous crimes.


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Gun merchants say some buyers are also driven by a fascination with a weapon used in notoriously heinous crimes.


What a load of horse shit,You buy an A/R because the military uses that caliber,making ammo plentiful,least I do.
 
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I wonder what this phrase really means:
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The AR-15 and its semiautomatic cousins



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I wonder what this phrase really means:
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It means they have no idea what they're talking about.

...but they know black rifles are bad!!
 
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Mine has a 30 magazine clip, per 1/2 a second.
 
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The AR-15 and its semiautomatic cousins


It's all of the different brands, right? Colt, LMT, etc... hehe




 
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Mine has a 30 magazine clip, per 1/2 a second.


You would be a criminal in CA. Smile




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In the Army ~47 years ago I had to qualify with the M-16 and the M-14. I guess I am out of sync as I prefer the 14.




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I wonder what this phrase really means:
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My first thought was an AR-10 and other non .226 variants.






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The AR-15 and its semiautomatic cousins


My first thought was an AR-10 and other non .226 variants.
I'm sure they mean ALL semi-auto rifles, not just AR clones. Like the Ruger 10-22. Actually, they would no doubt toss in semi-auto shotguns and pistols too.



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What about those of us who own them for completely phallic reasons? NBC snubbed us.


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The AR-15 and its semiautomatic cousins


Maybe Gregg Jarrett contributed to the report, he of bullet button fame.




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In the Army ~47 years ago I had to qualify with the M-16 and the M-14. I guess I am out of sync as I prefer the 14.


I too prefer the boom of doom the M14 slings downrange, but I own several AR15s.



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Gun merchants say some buyers are also driven by a fascination with a weapon used in notoriously heinous crimes.

Yeah, this was my primary motivation to buy one. Roll Eyes
 
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What about those of us who own them for completely phallic reasons? NBC snubbed us.


no respect there, but it's all a part of 'toxic masculinity' so we're covered by general hate and discontent even if they forgot us here.


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Gun merchants say some buyers are also driven by a fascination with a weapon used in notoriously heinous crimes.

This is a clear example of fake news.

The NBC reporter obviously made this up because it is what they believe.
Now you cannot prove that no merchant ever said this, but I would also bet that they cannot provide source of the statement.

What is true, is that there is a spike in sales after a heinous crime, such as seen with bump stocks.
However, this is due to fear of government restrictions, not fascinating of a weapon because it was used in a heinous crime.



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Gun merchants say some buyers are also driven by a fascination with a weapon used in notoriously heinous crimes.

This is a clear example of fake news.

The NBC reporter obviously made this up because it is what they believe.
Now you cannot prove that no merchant ever said this, but I would also bet that they cannot provide source of the statement.

What is true, is that there is a spike in sales after a heinous crime, such as seen with bump stocks.
However, this is due to fear of government restrictions, not fascinating of a weapon because it was used in a heinous crime.


It’s the Rather Rule.

Just because the evidence is fabricated doesn’t mean it’s not true.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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One thing that hit me when reading the article was there were several statements about "building your on"...with every part being available on the internet except the receiver (most of the public have no idea what that is in relation to a firearm)...I have more than a few family members and friends that were somewhat in shock to find out that I have built several and how easy it is...the first words out of their mouth (to paraphrase) was "you can't tell me that's not against the law" (they pretty much expressed the same about my reloading)...

I wonder if that part of the article (building) an AR is an attempt to bring to the public's attention the fact that it is done as part of a clandestine way to build an "assault rifle"...most of the followers of NBC have no idea the ins or outs of firearms or for that matter, anything other than what the MSM tells them...

Even a couple of the pictures in the article...the guy setting in a semidark room holding an AR and the guy standing somewhat camouflaged in the woods, have a creepy feel...they have expressionless faces showing no emotion...even the girl.


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