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Visiting St. Louis on Thursday
September 26, 2017, 09:09 PM
usmc-navVisiting St. Louis on Thursday
On our way thru the Midwest and I want to visit the arch. Where is a safe area for my wife and I? I seem to remember that the west side is better / safer. Please advise
September 26, 2017, 09:48 PM
slabsides45South, Southwest. Avoid North, avoid East of the river. Others can chime in with specifics.
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September 27, 2017, 04:38 AM
GibbI stayed in St. Peter's (just north of the airport, west of St. Louis) and it was nice. I took the train downtown to get to the arch, but would suggest driving, as the train goes through rougher areas closer to the city.
Judy a note on the arch, if you are claustrophobic or on the larger size, make sure to sit in the sample team before buying your ticket. It is tight quarters! I loved it, but no way my wife would have been able to go (she gets nervous in regular elevators).
I shall respect you until you open your mouth, from that point on, you must earn it yourself. September 27, 2017, 05:05 AM
KevinCWI will s3nd you an email with my phone number. Text me with a good time.to.talk later.today.
Strive to live your life so when you wake up in the morning and your feet hit the floor, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up." September 27, 2017, 05:06 AM
KevinCWquote:
Originally posted by KevinCW:
I will s3nd you an email with my phone number. Text me with a good time.to.talk later.today.
Simple answer, stay south or west, out of the city. Avoid north at all.costs.
Strive to live your life so when you wake up in the morning and your feet hit the floor, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up." September 27, 2017, 05:16 AM
KevinCWEmail sent
Strive to live your life so when you wake up in the morning and your feet hit the floor, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up." September 27, 2017, 09:01 AM
chellim1quote:
I want to visit the arch.
Good. The arch is worth seeing, and going to the top. The museum below the arch is pretty cool. There also used to be a neat movie on the making of the arch, but I'm not sure they still show it.
The arch grounds are patrolled and pretty safe.
Yes, avoid the north side of the city, and the Illinois side (E. St. Louis). If you are looking for a place to stay, South County or West County.
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-rduckwor September 27, 2017, 11:35 AM
jsbcodyAvoid staying at any hotels in the Clayton area. When some protestors have been arrested in St. Louis County, the rest always go to the Justice Center in the middle of downtown Clayton to protest. Homewood Suites in Richmond Heights is safe. It is close to the Galleria but still far enough away that there shouldn't be any problems if protestors show up again. -Lots of good hotels further out I64/40 area in the Chesterfield area. Lots of good hotels to stay at in the Maryland Heights area and I70 corridor near the St. Charles County line (Missouri River).
When going to the Arch, try to avoid the area around the St. Louis City Police Headquarters (you should have no problems avoiding this area and getting to the Arch). Avoid going to the Arch during Cardinal game times.....disrupting a Cardinal game is the stated goal of the protestors.
September 27, 2017, 12:29 PM
Sigmundquote:
Originally posted by Gibb:
...Judy a note on the arch, if you are claustrophobic or on the larger size, make sure to sit in the sample team before buying your ticket. It is tight quarters! I loved it, but no way my wife would have been able to go (she gets nervous in regular elevators).
Yeah, it's an unusual design. I remember waiting on stairs and then squeezing into the sort of gondolas. IIRC, the windows up top were not very large. It's still worth a visit.
usmc-nav, Kevin's a good man, he won't steer you wrong.
September 27, 2017, 12:33 PM
OneWheelDriveThe Arch grounds are federal land and you can't carry there. If you want go to the top you have to pass through a metal detector.
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September 27, 2017, 04:12 PM
amalsSouth and west as already mentioned. But what hasn't been mentioned is that there are I think three motel chain locations along Interstate 44 at Hampton. I believe they are Drury, Holiday Inn, and Red Roof Inn. I can't speak to the accommodations themselves, but the location is safe and very convenient to anything you want to do in the city.
September 27, 2017, 05:01 PM
msfzoeMaybe leave your car or truck at home and take a Stryker.
September 29, 2017, 07:53 AM
usmc-navVisited yesterday and enjoyed our visit. Thanks to all for your advice.
KevinCW really was helpful and even gave me direct contact information. Public big thanks.