March 12, 2026, 04:25 PM
GustoferThe Iran War
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Originally posted by CPD SIG:
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Originally posted by Gustofer:
I've been hearing this for a few days. How in the hell could Iran attack California? Mexico?
Oh, a couple different ways.
I should have clarified. The reports that I've heard are that Iran would attack CA with drones. How is that even possible unless they launch them from Mexico?
Internally? Oh yeah. It'd be a piece of cake.
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March 12, 2026, 04:27 PM
CPD SIGquote:
6guns
Partial dichotomy
https://www.theepochtimes.com/...zXWH1NizdZ%2B1VnM%3DUS Knows Location of Most Iranian Sleeper Cells Inside America, Trump Says
‘We’ve got our eye on all of them,’ Trump said.
President Donald Trump said on March 11 that his administration knows the location of most Iranian sleeper cells in the United States.
MOST, not ALL…
Even a handful can cause serious damage.
And the way they operate, you can grab “most” and squeeze the shit out of them for information, they won’t know about the other cells out there.
Then some fuckwitted ass weasel from the aclu will cry and represent the terrorists, crying that their civil rights were violated.
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March 12, 2026, 04:52 PM
LS1 GTOIs it time to start playing Cowboys and Muslims?
I know, I’ll go sit in the corner….
Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
"If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers
The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own...
March 12, 2026, 05:08 PM
Gustoferquote:
Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
Is it time to start playing Cowboys and Muslims?
Long past time.
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March 12, 2026, 05:17 PM
RichardCContainers. Two million TEU's in one month.
"Preliminary February 2025 TEUs
CommentaryAdvocacy and OpinionsPort Volumes
Mar 20, 2025
The Pacific Merchant Shipping Association’s West Coast Trade Report is a monthly publication that monitors container traffic through 23 North American seaports, twenty in the United States and three in Canada. The TEU tallies cited here are the actual statistics released by the ports themselves, not a priori estimates based on proprietary models or algorithms. However, as the tardy numbers become available, the Facts & Figures tables on the PMSA website will be promptly updated. "
"In their respective March 10 press releases, both the National Retail Federation (NRF) and Descartes Systems Group announced their estimates for inbound container traffic that month. The NRF’s Global Port Tracker (GPT) expected 2.07 million inbound loaded TEUs to arrive in this year’s second month at the thirteen U.S. ports GPT monitors"
https://www.pmsaship.com/marit...iminary-feb-2025-teuMarch 12, 2026, 05:22 PM
RichardC https://www.cbp.gov/border-sec...curity/csi/csi-brief"CBP's 61 operational CSI ports now prescreen over 80 percent of all maritime containerized cargo imported into the United States."
How we defend.
March 12, 2026, 05:46 PM
bozmanI do not go anywhere, except back and forth to the jobsite where our new home is being built and the grocery store. I stay the hell out of Columbus anymore. That has turned into a shithole like every other democrat run city.
However, I have my carry pistol with me at all times and I put my body armor and SBR in the truck every time I go out.
I am fully convinced with all of the Somalis and other durka-durka immigrants we have here, something is going to go down at some point.
I do not want to be anywhere near it when it happens, but with my luck, I am not taking any chances of being "naked" if I am.
The "Boz"
March 12, 2026, 05:57 PM
sigmonkeyRescue efforts underway after US KC-135 refueling plane crashes in western Iraq.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/423859(Possible midair with another tanker. The second aircraft recovered at Ben Gurion Airport in Tel Aviv.)
"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא עוד March 12, 2026, 06:08 PM
GustoferDamn.
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March 12, 2026, 06:09 PM
bozmanI am on final for Rickenbacker ANG base. Those things fly over my home every day, along with various cargo companies and a low cost airline. We also get a bunch of GA aircraft overhead and the occasional Blackhawk.
I hope the one that went down did so in a controlled manner and they are okay.
Sigmonkey... You are the expert of military aircraft on the forum... I am just a stupid GA pilot.
Why do you think it was 2 refuelers and not a refueler and a fighter/bomber?
Edit... I see the news/X is reporting it was 2 tankers involved. I just do not understand how they could have been in a position for a mid-air, especially with their tech and the various air, ground and sea-born eyes that would have been looking at them.
The "Boz"
March 12, 2026, 07:33 PM
Ranger41Maybe consoildating fuel load.
"The world is too dangerous to live in-not because of the people who do evil, but because of the people who sit and let it happen." (Albert Einstein)
March 12, 2026, 07:44 PM
CPD SIGquote:
Originally posted by sigmonkey:
Rescue efforts underway after US KC-135 refueling plane crashes in western Iraq.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/423859(Possible midair with another tanker. The second aircraft recovered at Ben Gurion Airport in Tel Aviv.)
Thats a lot of JP fuel there.
Praying for survivors!
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"When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!"
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March 12, 2026, 08:32 PM
sigmonkeyIn controlled airspace/launch and recovery they may fly in a closer formation than in hostile/threat area where they have greater spread from each other.
While tankers can and do refuel each other, they can burn their "cargo" fuel by internal transfer.
Without knowing, just speculation, I suspect they may simply both got into the same piece of sky at the same time.
Then again, when the three Beagles got shot down, it was reported for some time that it was due to Kuwaiti operated Patriot battery, and finally the truth that a single Kuwaiti F-18C fired three AIM-9s.
The initial reports "not due to hostile or friendly fire", may change.
Last I heard, SOB stated as 5.
"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא עוד March 13, 2026, 01:31 AM
bozmanIf they were gassing up each other or transferring/consolidating fuel to a single tanker, then I guess that makes sense.
I did not know that the KC-135 was equipped to be refueled aloft. I just assumed that they would be able to transfer fuel from their bladders intended for others to their own internal tanks or directly to their engines from those stores.
I have seen pictures of the one that supposedly RTB'd and it is missing a large portion of its vertical stabilizer and a quarter of its rudder, so the other KC must have been hit on the underside or they crisscrossed, one over top and the other under.
Photo of Surviving KC-135The one that RTB's appears to have been out of Beale.
The "Boz"
March 13, 2026, 01:52 AM
sigmonkeyThat image of the "missing top" of the vertical stab may be an illusion of the lighting just is not illuminating the upper portion.
I'll wait for the (f)actual report as to it being credible.
(lighting can be on poles and the actual illumination not covering that high, so the "top of the stab" is just "hidden in the shadow".)
The facts will come out soon enough.
More concerned with loss of life and impact to families.
As much as crews and maintainers have an affinity and connection to the machines, when it is all said and done, we realize those are all cold, inanimate collections of parts, and the people that perish are friends, family and "us"...

"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא עוד March 13, 2026, 04:02 AM
bozmanAnother, well lit picture...
Picture of KC-135 Vert. Stab.
The "Boz"
March 13, 2026, 05:18 AM
sigmonkeyThe earlier image and this of the left and right aspect do not match. (I see things, and know things)
(it may be that the angles and perspectives from the left and right with different aspect when taken, can lead to skewed images, and I am willing to accept that is what I see as "differences", where there may not be any such thing)
There is a great deal of "AI" or otherwise manipulative bullshit being spread about.
While there may have been an actual "fuck up" that occurred, I choose to wait for the real skinny on the incident.
(the images may well be real and factual. I will admit that it is likely true, but the perspective seems off, but may be due to camera, and point the images were taken)
I just have an innate kneejerk resistance to agendas, in reporting.
If we step on our dick, we own it, and we stand tall and accept what comes from it.
But fuck me sideways, six ways form Sunday, from any lying cocksucker's filthy whore mouth protestations that might malign those that interject themselves into harm's way, while in service to our great Republic or her endeavors.
And I don't give two monkey shits to anyone that finds themselves contrary to my position.
The soulless Muslim drek, need be grateful I do not have the reach to the "Deal or No Deal" big red button, because I would beat it like a rented mule, until everyone had need of +1000,000 SPF. Put it on thick, boys, cause it's gonna be intense...
If a man threatens, to kill you, believe him.
"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא עוד March 13, 2026, 07:40 AM
trapper189CENTCOM Press releases:
Four Confirmed Deceased in Loss of U.S. KC-135 Over Iraq"TAMPA, Fla. – At approximately 2 pm ET on March 12, a U.S. KC-135 refueling aircraft went down in western Iraq. Four of six crew members on board the aircraft have been confirmed deceased as rescue efforts continue.
The circumstances of the incident are under investigation. However, the loss of the aircraft was not due to hostile fire or friendly fire.
The identities of the service members are being withheld until 24 hours after next of kin have been notified."
Loss of U.S. KC-135 Over Iraq"TAMPA, Fla. -- U.S. Central Command is aware of the loss of a U.S. KC-135 refueling aircraft. The incident occurred in friendly airspace during Operation Epic Fury, and rescue efforts are ongoing. Two aircraft were involved in the incident. One of the aircraft went down in western Iraq, and the second landed safely.
This was not due to hostile fire or friendly fire.
More information will be made available as the situation develops. We ask for continued patience to gather additional details and provide clarity for the families of service members."
March 13, 2026, 09:04 AM
Fly-SigSigmonkey, +1000 dittos. Well said!
March 13, 2026, 09:29 AM
sigfreundquote:
Originally posted by Fly-Sig:
Sigmonkey, +1000 dittos. Well said!
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