Europe needs another Charles Martel to finish the job.

What the ever living fuck is "GROOMING"?

These Islamofascist animals raped, sexually exploited, and human trafficked hundreds, if not thousands of children! And the police and politicians deliberately covered it up!!

This "Grooming" pigshit is Newspeak of the worst kind!

There was a time in the UK where these Islamofascist animals would be swinging from a gallows.

England needs a revolution. Maybe they will finally depose their useless crown.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news...-about-what-dont-ask

On Friday, British free-speech activist and Islam critic Tommy Robinson was acting as a responsible citizen journalist -- reporting live on camera from outside a Leeds courtroom where several Muslims were being tried for child rape -- when he was set upon by several police officers.

In the space of the next few hours, a judge tried, convicted, and sentenced him to 13 months in jail -- and also issued a gag order, demanding a total news blackout on the case in the British news media. Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, was immediately taken to Hull Prison.

?? true ??

more at:

http://www.powerlineblog.com/a...f-tommy-robinson.php

including a video of his arrest

This has an explanation of what happened and why

The Hayride is a very conservative site also

https://thehayride.com/2018/05...british-persecution/

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Originally posted by snwghst:
This has an explanation of what happened and why

https://thehayride.com/2018/05...british-persecution/

Thank you. I figured there was more to this story, and (not surprisingly) there was.

Here's the text of the article (bold emphasis mine):

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Earlier this month, we brought the story of English Defense League founder Tommy Robinson’s lawsuit against Twitter. Robinson was banned in March over violations of Twitter’s “hateful conduct” policy.

Now Robinson has much bigger issues to deal with. He was arrested on Friday after videotaping and asking questions of defendants in a “child grooming” sex abuse trial in Leeds.

Now the UK has become atrocious on issues of free speech and freedom of the press. The country has crafted laws on speech that have restricted what people can and can’t say, often in the name of political correctness.

Did Robinson get caught up in those restrictions? Is his arrest an example of British political correctness and tyranny run amok? Not exactly.

If you read Robinson’s defenders, they will tell a story like this. “Robinson was just reporting on the child grooming trial because the British government was covering it up. He was arrested for exercising his free speech rights and sent to prison after an hour-long secret trial for 13 months. The court has forbidden coverage of Robinson’s case. Finally, Britain has become a police state on the way to imposing Sharia law.”

Let’s take this story apart bit by bit because there are some half-truths here, along with lack of knowledge of British law.

First up, the arrest of Robinson itself. Robinson was outside the Leeds Crown Court live streaming on his Facebook page of himself asking the defendants questions. He was arrested for breaching the peace and incitement.

Now here’s where it gets interesting. The judge in the child grooming case upgraded the charges to contempt of court. Contempt of court has a different definition in the UK and restricts what the media can cover during a trial. This article from The Guardian illustrates the differences between the UK and US.

Because the “child grooming” trial involved the sexual abuse of minors, the judge imposed a reporting ban on the trial. It means that reporters cannot cover or report the trial until it is concluded. The British do this instead of jury sequestration

The British justify this as necessary to protect both accusers and defendants and to protect the right to a fair trial. In the UK, prejudicial reporting has led to mistrials and cases being dismissed.

Robinson’s broadcast was in violation of the reporting ban. He was arrested and then charged with contempt of court

Why was Robinson tried so quickly and then sent to prison? Because he did not actually go on trial. Robinson was under a suspended sentence for a similar action in 2017. The judge likely just simply activated the sentence because Robinson violated the terms of that sentence, which was to not videotape defendants outside of courtrooms. In fact, video cameras are banned in English courtrooms.

Now is the Robinson arrest and case under a reporting ban? Yes and no. There are plenty of stories in the UK media about Robinson’s arrest. But his actual sentencing and case are under a reporting ban until the duration of the child grooming trial.

Also, there is no cover-up of child grooming. The alleged rapists are already in custody and are currently on trial. Robinson’s “reporting” has accomplished nothing here.

Finally, is this an example of Britain becoming a police state? Hardly. What we have is a conflict between two fundamental and important rights, freedom of the press and the right to a fair trial. The British have chosen to resolve that conflict differently than America did.

If I was British, I would support scrapping the reporting bans. They’re effective when the only sources of news were newspapers and the BBC. But in this era of social media, they cannot be enforced. Instead, the UK should introduce jury sequestration for high profile cases like this one.

What happened to Robinson could never happen in America. For starters, such broad reporting bans were ruled unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1976. This would not even be an issue in this country.

Is this another example of Britain descending into tyranny? Not really. Robinson brought this arrest on himself by violating a reporting ban and the terms of his suspended sentence. Going to a courtroom under a suspended sentence is just stupid.

Britain has major problems with freedom of speech and freedom of the press, but this is not one of those cases. Robinson was grandstanding and he paid the price for it.

If that article is correct, it appears that this is not the first time that this guy has attempted to interfere with a trial, violating the law in the process.

Interfering with a jury's ability to make an impartial decision based on the evidence presented in court is a serious matter.

The last time, he was apparently simply given a suspended sentence. He then willfully chose to violate that court order. Would you not expect the justice system to impose a consequence?

Even here in the US, court cases involving juvenile abuse victims and other sensitive matters are often subject to seals/gag orders/closed courtrooms/etc. And high-profile cases are subject to jury sequestration.

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Originally posted by Sig2340:
What the ever living fuck is "GROOMING"?

These Islamofascist animals raped, sexually exploited, and human trafficked hundreds, if not thousands of children! And the police and politicians deliberately covered it up!!

This "Grooming" pigshit is Newspeak of the worst kind!

It's not Newspeak, or an attempt to downplay anything. Grooming is a term long-used in the criminal justice system for a specific style of actions. It's defined as "building an emotional connection with a victim to gain their trust for the purposes of sexual abuse, sexual exploitation, or trafficking".

Basically, "grooming" is the offender worming their way into the victim's trust, with the intent of abusing them at a later time and decreasing the likelihood that the victim will resist or report it. Baby-stepping towards the abuse, one step at a time.

Most child sexual abuse doesn't involve a complete stranger snatching up and assaulting a child. Instead, it usually involves a sexual predator that is known to the child, and who has worked their way over time up to abusing the child, spending a period of time grooming the victim first by befriending them, plying them with gifts, slowly introducing sexual talk, convincing them to keep secrets, gaining some sort of leverage for manipulation, etc.

Think of grooming as a fucked-up version of courtship, between a pedophile and a victim. (A similar style of grooming is also used by pimps with the people they recruit and then traffic.)

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Originally posted by snwghst:
This has an explanation of what happened and why

The Hayride is a very conservative site also

https://thehayride.com/2018/05...british-persecution/

This is good info, thanks. But frankly, I find it to be of scant comfort. Based on the recent cases with Charlie Gard and Alfie Evans, I still believe the UK has gone well down the path of totalitarianism. They are in need of a massive reformation, if not a revolution.

I would love to hear Tacfoley's perspective on this, or other English citizen members.

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Originally posted by RogueJSK:

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Originally posted by Sig2340:
What the ever living fuck is "GROOMING"?

These Islamofascist animals raped, sexually exploited, and human trafficked hundreds, if not thousands of children! And the police and politicians deliberately covered it up!!

This "Grooming" pigshit is Newspeak of the worst kind!

It's not Newspeak, or an attempt to downplay anything. Grooming is a term long-used in the criminal justice system for a specific style of actions. It's defined as "building an emotional connection with a victim to gain their trust for the purposes of sexual abuse, sexual exploitation, or trafficking".

Basically, "grooming" is the offender worming their way into the victim's trust, with the intent of abusing them at a later time and decreasing the likelihood that the victim will resist or report it. Baby-stepping towards the abuse, one step at a time.

Most child sexual abuse doesn't involve a complete stranger snatching up and assaulting a child. Instead, it usually involves a sexual predator that is known to the child, and who has worked their way over time up to abusing the child, spending a period of time grooming the victim first by befriending them, plying them with gifts, slowly introducing sexual talk, convincing them to keep secrets, gaining some sort of leverage for manipulation, etc.

Think of grooming as a fucked-up version of courtship, between a pedophile and a victim. (A similar style of grooming is also used by pimps with the people they recruit and then traffic.)

But "grooming" is not illegal until the sexual abuse or exploitation occurs.

These Islamofascists are not on trial for the events that lead to the abuse, they are on trial for the ACTUAL abuse and related criminal acts.

Why not call it what it is, widespread human trafficking, physical and sexual abuse of children and minors, rape, sexual exploitation, and terrorism by gangs of Muslim males?

I don't for a second believe the term "grooming" would be used if this was organized, widespread human trafficking, physical and sexual abuse of children and minors, rape, sexual exploitation, and terrorism by gangs of Caucasian males.

http://www.breitbart.com/londo...ed-jailed-13-months/

A judge had attempted to ban all reporting of the case over the weekend, but it can now be revealed after the restrictions were challenged by Leeds Live and other publications.

The reporting ban was lifted by Leeds Crown Court Tuesday .

The restrictions were ridiculed online, as details of the case were easily available on social media and some U.S. outlets, with many prominent figures sharing details and the hashtag #FreeTommy trending on Twitter.

“What kind of police state have we become?” tweeted UK Independence Party (UKIP) leader and MEP Gerard Batten. Dutch MP Geert Wilders also spoke out on the platform, comparing the UK to Saudi Arabia.

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“What kind of police state have we become?”

Well, there's only one kind, mate.

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'Free Tommy Robinson': Trump Jr., European populists slam UK over jailing of right-wing activist

http://www.foxnews.com/politic...t-wing-activist.html

The arrest and jailing of British right-wing activist Tommy Robinson for covering a child grooming trial has led to an outpouring of anger from conservative political figures in the U.S. and Europe -- with Donald Trump Jr. citing it as a reason “for the original Brexit.”

Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Lennon, was arrested Friday outside a court in Leeds for filming men accused of being part of a gang that groomed children. Britain has been rocked by an epidemic of child sex scandals perpetuated by gangs of predominantly Muslim men.

Fox News reported Friday that he had been jailed for 13 months for contempt of court, but British media initially were unable to report on the sentence due to a reporting ban slapped on the case by the judge. That ban was lifted Tuesday after appeals by media outlets.

Robinson, the former leader of the English Defense League known for his acerbic criticism of Islam, reportedly pleaded guilty to breaching the terms of a previously suspended sentence from 2017 when he reported on a similar case.

Robinson is a polarizing figure in the U.K. Supporters say he speaks out against political correctness and the growing influence of Islamic extremism, while opponents claim he is a racist who stokes fear and division, and note that he has previous convictions.

A counterterror police official said Robinson's material was partially responsible for the radicalization of a man who committed a terrorist attack on a mosque last year.

The details of the case Robinson was reporting on last week are still blocked by a reporting ban. Consequently many British media outlets reported only that he was arrested outside a courthouse, but gave no specifics about the case itself. However, Robinson’s supporters say he repeated allegations that have been published in local media outlets.

Robinson’s jailing has tapped into a long-standing narrative among conservatives in the U.K. and Europe that authorities are quick to clamp down on anyone bringing attention to crimes associated with Islam, while being lax about the perpetrators of those crimes.

Consequently, as news trickled out over the weekend, conservative figures reacted with fury. On Saturday, crowds descended outside Downing Street to demonstrate for Robinson’s release.

Others expressed concern for Robinson’s welfare, suggesting that due to his profile as an Islam critic, he may be a target in prison. U.K. Independence Party leader Gerard Batten said that one of the party’s members of the House of Lords wrote to Home Secretary Sajid Javid threatening a private prosecution as “an accessory, or for misconduct in public office."

The arrest and jailing of British right-wing activist Tommy Robinson for covering a child grooming trial has led to an outpouring of anger from conservative political figures in the U.S. and Europe -- with Donald Trump Jr. citing it as a reason “for the original Brexit.”

Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Lennon, was arrested Friday outside a court in Leeds for filming men accused of being part of a gang that groomed children. Britain has been rocked by an epidemic of child sex scandals perpetuated by gangs of predominantly Muslim men.

Fox News reported Friday that he had been jailed for 13 months for contempt of court, but British media initially were unable to report on the sentence due to a reporting ban slapped on the case by the judge. That ban was lifted Tuesday after appeals by media outlets.

Robinson, the former leader of the English Defense League known for his acerbic criticism of Islam, reportedly pleaded guilty to breaching the terms of a previously suspended sentence from 2017 when he reported on a similar case.

Robinson is a polarizing figure in the U.K. Supporters say he speaks out against political correctness and the growing influence of Islamic extremism, while opponents claim he is a racist who stokes fear and division, and note that he has previous convictions.

A counterterror police official said Robinson's material was partially responsible for the radicalization of a man who committed a terrorist attack on a mosque last year.

The details of the case Robinson was reporting on last week are still blocked by a reporting ban. Consequently many British media outlets reported only that he was arrested outside a courthouse, but gave no specifics about the case itself. However, Robinson’s supporters say he repeated allegations that have been published in local media outlets.

Robinson’s jailing has tapped into a long-standing narrative among conservatives in the U.K. and Europe that authorities are quick to clamp down on anyone bringing attention to crimes associated with Islam, while being lax about the perpetrators of those crimes.

Consequently, as news trickled out over the weekend, conservative figures reacted with fury. On Saturday, crowds descended outside Downing Street to demonstrate for Robinson’s release.

Others expressed concern for Robinson’s welfare, suggesting that due to his profile as an Islam critic, he may be a target in prison. U.K. Independence Party leader Gerard Batten said that one of the party’s members of the House of Lords wrote to Home Secretary Sajid Javid threatening a private prosecution as “an accessory, or for misconduct in public office."

Quickly, the case picked up international attention. Trump Jr. responded to a tweet about the case and the gag order, saying it was “Reason #1776 for the original #Brexit.”

“Don’t let America follow in those footsteps,” he warned.

In Europe, reaction was also strong, particularly among those who have opposed what they see as the Islamization of the continent.

Right-wing Dutch MP Geert Wilders submitted parliamentary questions to the Dutch minister of foreign affairs on the matter, and on Monday called the jailing "a disgrace."

"The lights of freedom are going out," he said in a statement in front of the British Embassy in The Hague.

German MP Petr Bystron, who represents the right-wing Alternative for Germany (AfD), told Breitbart London that he is pushing the German government to allow Robinson to claim asylum, and deemed him a “political prisoner.”

“We’ve seen there has been a high level of opposition throughout Europe against this act. So we said, ‘Okay now society is reacting but we need not only banners, not only stickers but something else, something real,'” he told the outlet.

Supporters of Robinson set up a Change.org petition, which by Tuesday afternoon had picked up more than 481,000 signatures.

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The grey ketteh on the "The Truth Factory" posted this...I am both saddened and embarrassed for the UK ...




Link to original video: https://youtu.be/m-185LSzRqk

Apparently American media is fine with this, huh

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Originally posted by Sig2340:
I don't for a second believe the term "grooming" would be used if this was organized, widespread human trafficking, physical and sexual abuse of children and minors, rape, sexual exploitation, and terrorism by gangs of Caucasian males.

^^^^
Well, you are wrong and don’t know what you are talkng about. Grooming is a serious claim and is not made lightly.

At least Fox's Tucker Carlson just had Katie Holmes on reporting on this travesty...the others, they are fixated on "Russia...Russia...Russia" and Roseanne's stupid mouth.

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Originally posted by gearhounds

I hope there are enough people left in GB that are willing to do what must be done to take back their country. I fear that the frog is nearly cooked; they waited too long and trusted the government to watch over their island. Clearly their government has failed them if Islam has gained such a deep foothold.[/QUOTE]

We are not far from that here. Not so much from the Muslims. Just letting the gov't get away with shit it has no business getting away with.

quote:

Originally posted by snwghst:
This has an explanation of what happened and why

The Hayride is a very conservative site also

https://thehayride.com/2018/05...british-persecution/

Sorry, that article is covering for the establishment.

He wasn't doing anything that other journalists don't do outside a courthouse after a trial (Yes, even in the UK).

Tommy Robinson is a thorn in the side of the establishment and they will do anything to shut him up.

He was arrested, dragged in front of a judge, denied access to his lawyers, tried, sentenced and transported to prison in the space of three hours! They had this planned ahead of time.


This is what he was arrested for:

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From one perspective, to be sure, Robinson's lightning-fast arrest, trial, and imprisonment should not have come as a surprise. "There has been a campaign to 'get Tommy' -- or what looks remarkably like it -- for some time," a source in the UK, whom I will call "L", told me late early Saturday morning.
The apparent justification for Robinson's arrest is that he was on a suspended sentence. In May of last year, he was taken into custody while reporting from outside a courthouse in Kent, where another group of Muslim defendants was being tried, also on "grooming" charges. That arrest was also unjustified. At least, however, Robinson was given a suspended sentence. This time, presumably, it was determined that the mere act of reporting yet again from outside another courthouse amounted to a violation of the terms of his suspended sentence.
The official cynicism here is obvious. L made a vital point: that often, when one of these "grooming gang" trials is being held, the extended families and friends of the defendants stand outside the courthouse and "heckle and intimidate" the rape victims as well as their families and supporters. "I've had reports of children as young as five throwing stones at victims' families," L said.
"This intimidation by extended community groups also involves going around to houses and harassing people." She has even heard of witnesses for the prosecution who have needed police protection to use a rest room inside a courthouse. Needless to say, this heckling and harassment is rarely reported on and never punished.

article here


Most of the charges against him are an attempt at intimidation and an attempt to shut him up. Some of them are just harassment, plain and simple.

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He does have a litany of charges against him. Robinson is currently awaiting trial after a tax investigation carried out by the police and says all his immediate family have had their finances examined by the police in recent years. He says his own bank account and all assets have been frozen for four years and his businesses run into the ground. He is apparently allowed access to only a small sum of cash each week.
There is a video of Robinson being arrested while attempting to walk through Tower Hamlets and he tells me that he was arrested for incitement after (by his account) one EDL demonstration went three minutes over its allotted 30-minute running time.
Then there are the ‘constant, constant death threats’. When somebody posted his mother’s address online and promised to ‘chop up’ Robinson’s kids he finally went to the police. He says they told him they could do nothing about it. He began retweeting Twitter threats, but says he was told by police that if he continued doing so he could face arrest himself.

Article Here

Fair Play, Justice and the British Government?
Today, those phrases shouldn't be spoken in the same sentence.

Kind of the definition of tyranny and why here we need the 2nd Amendment to defend the First Amendment.
What a f'd up country > UK.