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Elder Derangement Syndrome (not the Biden kind)

The tightness of polling on the recall of Gavin Newsom, combined with the frontrunner status of Black conservative Larry Elder, has driven many progressives over the edge, into madness. Nothing infuriates condescending Whites and racialist Blacks more than an independent-thinking, articulate Black conservative. The continuing disgraceful treatment of Justice Clarence Thomas by the corporate media and establishment Black institutions is the most prominent example to date. But the prospect of the governorship of our nation's most populous state, deep blue California, falling into the hands of a Black conservative has driven people to say absurd things, laughable on their face.

Heather Mac Donald has a characteristically excellent piece at City Journal on the left playing the race card on Elder. Understand that crime and homelessness are seriously affecting the quality of life for most Californians. Fear now plays a role in life that it did not prior to the governorship of Newsom. Elder's commonsense approach discards the progressive shibboleths and therefore outrages the progressives. Elder has even been called a "white supremacist" in major publications. The fear of crime, especially among Blacks, who are the disproportionate victims, could well push him into the governor's office if the election is not stolen.

Read the whole thing, especially for the thorough debunking of left-wing claims against Elder's factually correct observations on the source of crime. Nobody masters crime statistics the way Mac Donald does. Her conclusion is self-evidently correct:

Trying to ensure that blacks get the policing they need in order to stay alive would not seem to be the gesture of a white supremacist, black or white.

One other thing that she does, though, is examine the total absence of media consideration of the possibility of the "historic first" Black California governor. Because the hypocrisy is so deep, it becomes downright amusing.

If Elder were running as a Democrat, the press would be celebrating the possibility of California's first black governor. Instead, we hear nothing about "shattering glass ceilings" or "diversifying" the ruling elite. The New York Times ran an entire front-page article on Elder's candidacy without once mentioning that he was black. (The article did claim in passing that Elder was an affirmative-action admit to Brown University, an unthinkable charge regarding a black liberal.) A column by Paul Krugman two days later was equally colorblind regarding the Elder candidacy. Has the Times renounced identity politics? Only selectively. Adjacent to the August 25 front-page article was a story on New York's new governor, headlined "Hochul Breaks a Barrier and Pledges a New Era." The story opened with the observation that "Kathleen C. Hochul became the first woman to ascend to New York's highest office on Tuesday." Yet Hochul's entry into the governor's mansion in Albany does not even signify anything about gubernatorial voting patterns; she was not elected but slotted in after Andrew Cuomo's resignation. Black governors have been much rarer than female ones. Elder would lead the nation's largest state and be just the third black governor ever elected in the United States, following Douglas Wilder in Virginia and Deval Patrick in Massachusetts.

Elder is indifferent to the silence regarding the "historic" nature of his candidacy.

But the media's effort to portray his run merely as a resurgence of alleged Trumpian racism depends on a shameful duplicity regarding crime and policing. As long as that duplicity remains in force, in the California governor's office and elsewhere, the country will continue sliding toward anarchy.

Alas, I see every sign that the left is pulling out all the stops to steal the election. Ballot envelopes have been designed to reveal a yes vote on the recall when the voter folds the ballot in the most logical way and puts it in the envelope. Easy to spot and discard before counting.

People are even allowed to print their own ballots, which seems redundant since the election is entirely by mail with a huge mailing of ballots, purportedly to every registered California voter.

It seems that quite a few people not eligible to vote are also receiving ballots, in addition to whatever fake ballots may be printed up:

While I am as cynical as can be about election integrity in California, I still have a slim hope that, given the level of panic we see on the left, he still has a chance to win.

https://www.americanthinker.co..._the_biden_kind.html



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I'm predicting he'll be recalled and Larry Elder will replace him.

The problem is that with a Democrat Super majority in the State legislature, Elder won't be able to get anything good done while he's in office.


Maybe he won't be able to get much done, but he may be able to put the brakes on here and there. If nothing else he will crack the California political echo chamber, and there might just be enough pissed off people out there that he finds some support.




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"Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."
"I did," said Ford, "it is."
"So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the lizards?"
"It honestly doesn't occur to them. They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates the government they want."
"You mean they actually vote for the lizards."
"Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."
"But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"
"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard, then the wrong lizard might get in."
 
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Originally posted by Flash-LB:
I'm predicting he'll be recalled and Larry Elder will replace him.

The problem is that with a Democrat Super majority in the State legislature, Elder won't be able to get anything good done while he's in office.


Maybe he won't be able to get much done, but he may be able to put the brakes on here and there. If nothing else he will crack the California political echo chamber, and there might just be enough pissed off people out there that he finds some support.


For those of us living in CA and know firsthand how bad Newsom is, Elder will be a refreshing breath but let's be honest, he will be able to accomplish very little.

He can move discretionary money around, he can issue EOs but in terms of changing existing laws or moving his preferred legislation, the Dems have a super majority will veto anything he puts out there.

Since this is only to finish out Newsom's term that ends in 2022, Elder will be shut down by the legislature where possible. Newsom will be able to run again and he'll say that Elder was ineffective and doesn't deserve to retain the job.

That's the predictable playbook but the real fear is what the legislature doesn't control - appointment of replacement senators aka Senator DiFi. If she steps down Elder will name her replacement and that tilts the Senate to Republican control and shuts down the WH and their slim control.
 
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That's the predictable playbook but the real fear is what the legislature doesn't control - appointment of replacement senators aka Senator DiFi. If she steps down Elder will name her replacement and that tilts the Senate to Republican control and shuts down the WH and their slim control.
DiFi could quash that problem by retiring right now, while Newsome is still Governor.

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That's the predictable playbook but the real fear is what the legislature doesn't control - appointment of replacement senators aka Senator DiFi. If she steps down Elder will name her replacement and that tilts the Senate to Republican control and shuts down the WH and their slim control.
DiFi could quash that problem by retiring right now, while Newsome is still Governor.

flashguy



Very true and she's under some pressure to do that so there isn't a Ruth Ginsburg type of situation. In the past when this has come up, people who want her to retire placed stories in the media about her declining mental health and how she's slowing. She pushed back hard to refute them and said she's not planning on retiring.

My best guess is that she finishes out her term and retires. She'd be 91 if she sought another 6 years.
 
Posts: 4079 | Location: "You can't just go to Walmart with a gift card and get a new brother." Janice Serrano | Registered: May 03, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Newsome recalled? Depends who counts the signatures, IMO.

We recently did a recall on our POS city Mayor.

Local morning news after the count stated the signature count was well over the limit needed...25,000.

Oh, but wait. Count later in the day showed a limit JUST UNDER 25,000 required.

Sorry said the Tucson City Council.


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Not attempting to float a conspiracy theory but would it surprise me the same type of cheating against Trump will deployed? NO, I almost expect it.
 
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Originally posted by Flash-LB:
I'm predicting he'll be recalled and Larry Elder will replace him.

The problem is that with a Democrat Super majority in the State legislature, Elder won't be able to get anything good done while he's in office.


Maybe he won't be able to get much done, but he may be able to put the brakes on here and there. If nothing else he will crack the California political echo chamber, and there might just be enough pissed off people out there that he finds some support.

If Elder or, any other GOP candidates are looking to get some stuff in-spite of a super-majority, he can do some house cleaning of governor appointed departments such as the Public Utilities Commission (PUC), who's done very little to reform or, replace PG&E. Their path of ruin is legendary and Newsome and cronies are benefiting.

They can also looking at doing some scrubbing of senior people at the CA Dept of Water Resources in how they manage dam water outflows (bait fish protection anyone), along with the CA Air Resource Board and EPA, their resistance efforts to allow the CA Forestry Dept to manage forest vegetation.
 
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Not attempting to float a conspiracy theory but would it surprise me the same type of cheating against Trump will deployed? NO, I almost expect it.


I totally expect it.

They dimocrats saw that it worked and it can work again in a heavily dim controlled state.


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Four families control the California Dem machine, Brown, Pelosi, Newsom, etc. They will do anything to stay in power, for them cheating is just part of the political game.

I am 100% sure they will try to steal the recall election.
Here is some history of the four families control over Cali:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MGbkDGOAC8


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Elder would be great, and I hope he wins. However, realistically, California Dems will pull all the stops to steal the vote. Printing your own ballot, yes votes obvious if ballots folded the usual way, and probably a dozen other ways they will cheat to stay in power.


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Hey, it's California, right? Let's just make it a popularity contest.


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Or a bad example. That would work too.
 
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