Cool my AK74 just became absolutely worthless.

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Originally posted by Jester814:
Cool my AK74 just became absolutely worthless.

I had that feel as well. I have 3 AKs and a SKS to feed lol

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Originally posted by Jester814:
Cool my AK74 just became absolutely worthless.

No doubt, this was part of the reason.

I have for years refused to buy that foreign commie crap ammo and the same with guns...

Am I wrong in believing in buying American?

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Originally posted by Blume9mm:
I have for years refused to buy that foreign commie crap ammo and the same with guns...

Am I wrong in believing in buying American?

Don't disagree with your logic - but most of todays MIM parts on your/my guns are not made in America. (unfortunately)

I have utilized, almost exclusively, Golden Tiger 124g in my AK for the past 10+ years. Never had any real issues other than a hard primer once in a great while. I will have to find a new go-to round now.

I’ve been watching this. Sgammo went from a fair supply, +/- 45 cents a round to sold out. That’s 7.62x39.

Just doing what they can to make things more expensive.

Crap. I guess I am going to have to buy an AR now. And the ammo. And the magazines........

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:


OTOH, I'm hoping the Romanians can still crank up their steel-cased 5.45 production machinery from the bad ol' days.

I think the ammo side of Arsenal in Bulgaria still does steel cased 7.62 and 5.56.

On second thought, we could always trade some 5.56 with the Taliban for their new rifles.....

The ammo ban will hurt. But as mentioned, nearly all Russian guns were already banned from import, so that impact will be minimal.

Hopefully, some of the former Eastern Bloc countries can tool up for commercial ammo production, like Romania, Poland, and Bulgaria.

The ammo supply adapted after the Chinese gun/ammo ban. It will take some time, but we'll adapt this time around as well.

it says 'New and pending permit applications for the permanent importation of firearms and ammunition manufactured or located in Russia will be subject to a policy of denial.'


Nothing about existing importers.

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Originally posted by Pyker:
it says 'New and pending permit applications for the permanent importation of firearms and ammunition manufactured or located in Russia will be subject to a policy of denial.'


Nothing about existing importers.

"Restrictions on the permanent imports of certain Russian firearms."

This is the part that concerns me. The way I read this is that restrictions, i.e., bans, are going to be placed on "certain Russian firearms" already being imported into the U.S. and what the government defines as "certain Russian firearms" which could include ammo. Also, these bans and restrictions are usually only in place for one year and are then subject to renewal, i.e., "renewal, subject to change". So who is to say what is going to happen when some of the "bans and restrictions", already in place, come to the end of their yearly cycle?

From what I've read "existing importers" will definitely be effected, as each shipment must be permitted. After existing supplies are exhausted, there will be no more. Of course, it could be changed in 12 months, but we all know, I think, that it's not going to happen. I'm wondering if ammo still in transit will be stopped, but I don't know at what point in the process import permits are issued.

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So who is to say what is going to happen when some of the "bans and restrictions", already in place, come to the end of their yearly cycle?

"Permanent importation" just means imported for sale or other (permanent) disposition in the U.S., as opposed to temporarily imported for use by, say, a Russian hunter or target competitor.

This is on a 12-month cycle as well. Biden's likely to have a plausible reason for extending it. Putin may provide the "required" assurances and then ignore them as he has in the past. But the odds of the Russian government accepting responsibility on the basis of an investigation by the German government and then paying Novalny compensation seem extremely low.

Then again, it's an Executive Order, so it could be modified or discarded at any time depending on who's in the White House.

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:

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So who is to say what is going to happen when some of the "bans and restrictions", already in place, come to the end of their yearly cycle?

"Permanent importation" just means imported for sale or other (permanent) disposition in the U.S., as opposed to temporarily imported for use by, say, a Russian hunter or target competitor.

Indeed.

Perhaps, at least, from the wording, since it doesn't say "components", we might still see the aforementioned importation of steel cases from Russia and then loading them in this country by companies like Hornaday.