Perhaps. Some of us have absorption issues. It is best to have your physician run the labs, and dose accordingly.

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Originally posted by Neel:

not able to sleep, equililbrium issues, weaker than a newborn. Those lasted for three days, now I'm back to normal.

That is my normal.

Rcvd my second dose of Pfizer last week and no side effects, no sore arm, nothing. I wonder if they gave me saline instead.

Have had both of the Moderna given by the VA. A bit of sore spot on the arm after each and a day of feeling like you’re getting sick without fever. Knocked the wind a little out of my sails for a day after each. Other than that, it’s been ok.

Twelve pages and yet no one can answer this question for at least another 5 years, possibly longer.

Oh, I don't need five years to tell you- doan doot. Jus' doooooooan doot!

See the Control Group

Be the Control Group

I am the Control Group

Got my 2nd microchip today. Waiting to turn into a pumpkin. Seriously though, the first one hit me hard. I'm hoping I escape this time with a sore arm.

One of the reasons I remain in the Control Group is my opposition to this whole idea of "Vaccine Passports". The harder they push me to take it... the less likely I am to take it.

10 Huge Corporations Working To Make Big Bucks From Forcing Americans Into Vaccine Passports

Here are 10 companies working alongside the government to bring forth vaccine passports to control where Americans can go and what they can do.

https://thefederalist.com/2021...o-vaccine-passports/

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Originally posted by chellim1:
One of the reasons I remain in the Control Group is my opposition to this whole idea of "Vaccine Passports". The harder they push me to take it... the less likely I am to take it.

10 Huge Corporations Working To Make Big Bucks From Forcing Americans Into Vaccine Passports

Here are 10 companies working alongside the government to bring forth vaccine passports to control where Americans can go and what they can do.

https://thefederalist.com/2021...o-vaccine-passports/

The selfish reason I got mine, was on the chance the Taiwanese government reduces or eliminates the quarantine requirement for people vaccinated. I sent my wife and kids to Taiwan, so they could attend school in person and it was probably the only opportunity they could go that long. They are there 6 months. I would love to go visit for 2 weeks, see the family, and bring mine back. That is impossible with a 14 day quarantine, considering I can spare a max of 12 PTO days. Other than that, I had 0 reason to bother.

I'd bet there are a lot more than 10 with their fingers in the pie.

Big tech is the devil most issues, they need to develop to grow, what better than software you can sell that keeps records on billions world wide, the data center, tech help, developers, updated apps, updated security. COVID, Digital Gun chips, Bullet chips, anything that can be logged, recorded, monitored, traced.

Constitution be damned.

Not getting an adverse reaction to the "vaccine" isn't one of the biggest dangers, it's the subsequent restrictions, marketing and control over the lives of people that is the danger, when you hear, see, read, type, messages about the dangers of the shot, not everyone is worried about growing a third eye.

It's giving up privacy in order to maintain freedom to move around the country without government based restrictions which force individuals to submit to others rules on medical decisions.

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Very sad to see the Mayo Clinic listed among those pushing for a "passport."

^^^^^^^^^^
These guys became very dollar oriented some time back. About the time they started franchising the name much like McDonalds.

I vote Pfizer, which I received, with no ill effects.

I'm into my fifth week of my 2nd dose of Moderna and have had no ill effects to speak of, with either dose.

On a side note: Our Governor Noem just issued an executive order banning vaccine passports here in South Dakota. The governors of Florida, Texas, Montana, Idaho, Arizona, and Utah have also issued executive orders against vaccine passport systems, citing government overreach into personal freedom and private health choices. New York was the first state to institute a passport system.

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Originally posted by bald1:
Very sad to see the Mayo Clinic listed among those pushing for a "passport."

I told people this was going to happen way back when I got my first dose, maybe 2 months ago or so.

It's going to take hold and grow. Arizona's Governor just put out an executive order making it okay for business to do just that. He did forbid State or city or local government from doing it though.

Uh oh...

I'm glad to be in the wait-and-see crowd and not the beta tester crowd:


Could the Pfizer Vaccine Lead to Heart Inflammation? A Report Found a Link to Myocarditis—Here's What We Know

I had a routine visit with my Primary Care Doc yesterday. He recommended that I get the Moderna.

Because of my history with Guillain Barré Syndrome, I asked him about side effect problems.

He stated that if I did have a problem it would most likely be allergic reaction to the preservative in the vaccine, uncomfortable but not dangerous.

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Originally posted by PASig:
Uh oh...

I'm glad to be in the wait-and-see crowd and not the beta tester crowd:


Could the Pfizer Vaccine Lead to Heart Inflammation? A Report Found a Link to Myocarditis—Here's What We Know

Exactly why vaccines require years of testing and trials before coming to market.

There's one way and one way only to be certain you will suffer no ill effects from some vaccine or other. Anyone care to take a guess?

In an effort to avoid a problem you don't have, you place yourself in harm's way by allowing people who really don't know what they're doing, to inject you with a "vaccine" (the Costanza, the Bundy, what have you) which has the possibility of, well, killing you.

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There's one way and one way only to be certain you will suffer no ill effects from some vaccine or other. Anyone care to take a guess?

In my case, it's damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

My doc really has nothing to gain or to lose, his office does not have the vaccine to administer.

We had a discussion about this during my office visit yesterday. We agreed that, playing the percentages, it does make sense for me to get the shots, seeing as I am in a very high risk group for The Virus, due both to age and severely damaged immune system.

Yes, there is probably some risk involved with the vaccine, but the risk of severe illness or death if I do contract The Virus, is much deadlier.

Just looking at forum member ArtieS, and what he went through, not once, but twice, with The Virus, December 2019 and December 2020. He is younger and healthier than I am, and his experience was horrible. There is a real question about whether I would survive, so per agreement with my doc, who is pretty conservative about vaccinations (he has me on the no-fly list for flu shots), I'm going to go with what we perceive as the lesser of the two evils. I don't see that I can really make a case for not having the vaccine. Younger, healthier, people might very well make the opposite decision.