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| More Human Than Human  |
Taking Trump Seriously Donald Trump has made the cover of Rolling Stone and it's actually worth the read. Besides his Carly Fiorina quip which everyone in the press is running with it's actually a decent primer on the Donald. Of course it's Rolling Stone so I don't think I need to add any warnings of bias here. His grand-dad sounds a lot like Al Swearengen from Deadwood A Presidential campaign is going to be expensive and whether and how he'll have enough to go the distance is a valid concern. Another from the other side of the fence. Billy Corgan of the Smashing Pumkins. Instead of the usual brain dead knee jerk reaction some brain cells seem to be at play here. http://www.rollingstone.com/mu...haos-theory-20150904
__________________________ They keep saying they just want "sensible gun laws" but they hold up countries where they are banned and confiscated as their ideal. Antis thinks guns are only good for killing people. I think guns are good for self defense. So I'm the one with the "problem"? The Bill of Rights affirms the Rights of the Individual Not the State. Anyone tells me different is a liar. “The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”― Christopher Hitchens | |||
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Bad dog! |
What are Boehner and McConnell if not the faces of death? As certainly as was the powdered-wigged, rouged, perfumed face of Louis XVI. Fake tan, half in the bag, blubbering in front of the cameras-- when that is the face of your party-- dig the hole, your party is dead. ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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Get on the fifty! |
Fox is getting desperate, the headline on the front page: "THE LAST STRAW? Candidates condemn Trump for Fiorina attack" The people that will get upset were already upset to begin with. Makes no difference. "Pickin' stones and pullin' teats is a hard way to make a living. But, sure as God's got sandals, it beats fightin' dudes with treasure trails." "We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed, and we've been quite possibly, bamboozled." | |||
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| Official forum SIG Pro enthusiast  |
Ian111, That article on Taking Trump Seriously in Rolling Stone was fascinating! Excellent read, thanks for posting up the link. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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| Thank you Very little  |
The one thing he has to watch is stuff like personal comments about people, as here we have a no personal attack on things like weight, color, creed, many folks don't like that stuff, hopefully his handlers can help reign that part in, be contentious, fine, tell people to piss off, fine, stir it up and have at it, but beware certain lines you cross. | |||
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“I fired MacArthur because he wouldn’t respect the authority of the president. I didn’t fire him because he was a dumb son of a bitch, although he was.” ― Harry S. Truman I just read the above quote in another thread here on the forum and it made me laugh how people get their drawers in a wad when Trump sounds off. So far, I think Trump still has a ways to go to top this one. | |||
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Chip away the stone |
True. He should save those comments for days he's not currently in the headlines. Oh wait, he already figured that out.  (I know that's not what you meant, but it's clearly in his nature to make those kinds of comments.) | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process  |
I believe that quote by Truman was said after he was out of office, and not publicly made. Truman did have a life long habit of speaking his mind, though. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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The only way left for Fiorina, Jindahl, Huckabee and the rest of them to get any media attention is to have Trump insult them. I bet a lot of people who before didn't even realize Fiorina was a female do now. Trump has taken every single molecule of oxygen out of the campaign for himself. I just got a couple Trump Make America Great Again hats and wore one out to do a few errands. Had two people ask me where I got it. I'm in Minnesota and they didn't try to run me out of town at least!  "Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower  |
^^Two months ago, the commies wouldn't have bothered with creating a meme like that. Not the part of people "escaping". I'm talking about the idea of Trump as president. Two months ago, the idea of a Trump presidency was out of the question, but now... ...they're scared.  ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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My thoughts exactly. | |||
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| Bad dog! |
This is a potential problem for Trump. It's not that people will become angry with him for not being PC, they will just get tired of it. He cannot become "the guy who insults people." The open border, the Iran "deal," the way China screws us over in trade-- he has gotten all the support because we are angry and fed up with these important matters-- and, in general, with corrupt Washington politicians who do not represent our interests AT ALL. It's not about Carly Fiorina's face. Knock it off, Donald. Stay on track. It goes all the way to the White House. ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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I dunno - Donald J. Rickles made a living off of insults for a LOT of years and he was kinda lovable in a pain-in-the-ass way! "When you stand alone and sell yourself, you can’t please everyone. But when you’re different, you can last.” (Don Rickles) "You know, every night when I go out on stage, there's always one nagging fear in the back of my mind. I'm always afraid that somewhere out there, there is one person in the audience that I'm *not* going to offend!" (Don Rickles) | |||
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| Bad dog! |
"When you stand alone and sell yourself, you can’t please everyone. But when you’re different, you can last.” (Don Rickles) Don Rickles might have been right about that. Because every time the media jumps on Trump for insulting somebody, his poll numbers go UP. And what might explain it is what Rickles said: He's different. He doesn't apologize and grovel. And the sense we get is that he's letting it all hang out. He's not-- like all the others-- presenting a focus-grouped image that is sanitized and manipulated by his handlers. He's Donald Fuckin' Trump. Okay, he's rude. Arrogant. Bombastic. But that's who he is, that is Trump warts and all. The media will get tired of trying to milk this--with no success-- before the people get tired of it. Thinking more about it, I take back what I said about this being a potential weakness for Trump. Maybe it is his strength. ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
Amen, brother. | |||
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The Joy Maker |
I don't want Trump, but that fact that he scares the shit out of those Bolshies, it warms the cockles of my heart. I got some friends and family that are tight/moist in the shorts for Bernie Sanders, and if they're not gushing on about him, they're scared out of their wits of the idea that Trump could be president. Just fucking terrified. It's funny, it amuses me, and I revel in it, and I giggle. 
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Scared? No. Offended? Yes. Bolshie? No. Vietnam vet? Yes. https://military.id.me/news/do...utm_campaign=article Glad you're amused at the ongoing cheapening of public discourse. -------------- Don't put me in fear for my life. | |||
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| The Joy Maker |
My cat is orange.
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
Just build the damn fence. If you are here illegally, you are a criminal and must be deported. Anchor babies do NOT have birthright citizenship under the 14th amendment. Why is this difficult? I don't really want trump as President, although this is all still very entertaining. I would prefer a Constitutional Conservative, like Cruz. However, if Trump is the only way to beat Jeb, then so be it. I'll take Trump over Jeb. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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