Originally posted by Ironbutt: I think it's time for Donald & The Hag to go home & give it a rest. Everybody who's going to vote on Tuesday decided long ago who they're going to vote for & neither of them are going to change anybody's mind. If there are still any undecided voters out there, they're too stupid to vote in the first place.
At this point it is a matter of ensuring your supporters actually vote. Trump needs to win by a huge margin. The Democrats know how to game the system and win in close races.
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November 05, 2016, 01:24 PM
Deqlyn
Chicago, one thing to also remember is dems nationally beat repubs with early voting every year 2 or 3 to 1.
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November 05, 2016, 01:25 PM
Mainframe Coder
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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan: ....And it's not some over-eager reporter....It's Jon Ralston - the go-to guy on Nevada politics. If he's saying Trump is in trouble, it's not a fact...but it is something to worry about.
Jon Ralston is an ultra-liberal who once had a TV show on PBS in Vegas & Reno until he was FIRED this past June for spreading lies about the Sanders' campaign. Ralston is a Hillary campaign hack. He is currently unemployed.....
The "go-to guy" for Nevada politics? Choose your news sources more wisely. Even CNN shows Trump up +6 in Nevada (which is outside their poll's margin of error.)
November 05, 2016, 01:40 PM
ChicagoSigMan
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Originally posted by Mainframe Coder:
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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan: ....And it's not some over-eager reporter....It's Jon Ralston - the go-to guy on Nevada politics. If he's saying Trump is in trouble, it's not a fact...but it is something to worry about.
Jon Ralston is an ultra-liberal who once had a TV show on PBS in Vegas & Reno until he was FIRED this past June for spreading lies about the Sanders' campaign. Ralston is a Hillary campaign hack. He is currently unemployed.....
The "go-to guy" for Nevada politics? Choose your news sources more wisely. Even CNN shows Trump up +6 in Nevada (which is outside their poll's margin of error.)
Tell me more about the polls, please.
You can look for all kinds of reasons to not believe this guy (who is widely known as an expert in NV politics). I prefer to look to see if there are reasons I should believe him. You can ignore additional data points if they don't confirm your preferences, but I like to look at everything out there. The numbers don't change just because Ralston is a liberal. Dems have a huge GOTV operation in NV and it is working. Early voting heavily favors Democrats. Doesn't mean Clinton wins, but you'd be a fool to ignore it.
We are also hearing reports of heavy Latino early voting here in Florida. I guess we should ignore those reports too. It is clear that the Dems have a strategy, and they are working it hard.
November 05, 2016, 01:45 PM
Mainframe Coder
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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan: Dems have a huge GOTV operation in NV and it is working. Early voting heavily favors Democrats.
And you know this to be true.....how? Do you work in the Nevada State Government? Or....did someone in the media tell you this? Explain how you know "it is working" and how you know that early voting in Nevada "heavily favors Democrats"?
I don't ignore anything but I do easily dismiss agenda-driven propaganda and wishful rhetoric. The Democrats in Nevada are desperate to reverse the massive shift to Trump that has occurred there over the past 30 days.
November 05, 2016, 01:46 PM
Balzé Halzé
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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
Tell me more about the polls, please.
You can look for all kinds of reasons to not believe this guy (who is widely known as an expert in NV politics). I prefer to look to see if there are reasons I should believe him. You can ignore additional data points if they don't confirm your preferences, but I like to look at everything out there. The numbers don't change just because Ralston is a liberal. Dems have a huge GOTV operation in NV and it is working. Early voting heavily favors Democrats. Doesn't mean Clinton wins, but you'd be a fool to ignore it.
At this point in the race, who cares? Ain't a darn thing anyone can do about it now, so why not just ignore it?
That's basically what I'm doing now until election night. I'm ignoring the media.
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November 05, 2016, 01:49 PM
46and2
MSNBC reporter:
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I'm sorry, Hillary's events this week in swing states do not feel like a winning campaign. Small, bad vibe. You can feel an enthusiasm problem.
November 05, 2016, 01:52 PM
Mainframe Coder
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Originally posted by 46and2: I'm sorry, Hillary's events this week in swing states do not feel like a winning campaign. Small, bad vibe. You can feel an enthusiasm problem.
Across the liberal media, the mood, the tone, the enthusiasm, is gone. These people work in the media full-time and they know how to read the landscape very well. They know what's about to happen on Tuesday. You can hear it in their voices and see it on their faces.
November 05, 2016, 02:00 PM
dusty3030
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Originally posted by Mainframe Coder:
Across the liberal media, the mood, the tone, the enthusiasm, is gone. These people work in the media full-time and they know how to read the landscape very well. They know what's about to happen on Tuesday. You can hear it in their voices and see it on their faces.
Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan: Dems have a huge GOTV operation in NV and it is working. Early voting heavily favors Democrats.
And you know this to be true.....how? Do you work in the Nevada State Government? Or....did someone in the media tell you this? Explain how you know "it is working" and how you know that early voting in Nevada "heavily favors Democrats"?
I don't ignore anything but I do easily dismiss agenda-driven propaganda and wishful rhetoric. The Democrats in Nevada are desperate to reverse the massive shift to Trump that has occurred there over the past 30 days.
I don't work for the government but I know how to read. The vote counts are published on the Nevada Secretary of State's website and in just about every Nevada newspaper, including the one owned by Sheldon Adelson. It is an inarguable fact that voters with Democrat Party registration have submitted some 70,000 more ballots than voters with GOP registration. As I said, we don't know how they actually voted, but precincts with large latino populations are breaking early voting records. The same thing is happening here in Florida. The Dems have gone all in on getting Latinos to vote, and they are having success. It's not propaganda. It is fact. It is no less a fact simply because I wish it weren't true.
I didn't say Trump is in trouble. I didn't even say he would lose NV. I simply put out some interesting data for political junkies to consider. You have dismissed it. Others may not.
November 05, 2016, 02:11 PM
Mainframe Coder
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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
I didn't say Trump is in trouble. I didn't even say he would lose NV. I simply put out some interesting data for political junkies to consider. You have dismissed it. Others may not.
Fair enough. Let's see what happens on Tuesday. My guess is that we're going to be very happy with the results in Nevada.
November 05, 2016, 02:13 PM
ChicagoSigMan
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Originally posted by Mainframe Coder:
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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
I didn't say Trump is in trouble. I didn't even say he would lose NV. I simply put out some interesting data for political junkies to consider. You have dismissed it. Others may not.
Fair enough. Let's see what happens on Tuesday. My guess is that we're going to be very happy with the results in Nevada.
We are on the same side and want the same result. Now we just have to wait for it.
November 05, 2016, 02:15 PM
pbslinger
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Originally posted by Mainframe Coder: Melania Trump is a surprisingly effective public speaker.
She's got Bill's attention! He's thinking about switching parties.
November 05, 2016, 02:33 PM
spunk639
I am so sick and tired of all of these alleged experts who know Nevada, Utah, New Hampshire or anywhere, really get over yourselves, maybe a little common sense 50k people at an event versus 4K and thousands more on line. Really the average Joe or Jane may just be sick and tired of all these political pundits telling us what the state of the world is, maybe I don't think these intellectual giants are all that.
November 05, 2016, 02:40 PM
Rightwire
I recall the media handing the election to a democratic candidate, declared the undisputed winner.... And within and hour were proven horribly wrong.
The only difference here is that they declared it over in August.
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November 05, 2016, 02:51 PM
GT-40DOC
The US Supreme Court just voted to uphold the Az. ban on one person bringing in multiple ballot for "friends"!!!! Our Gov. signed this into law a few months ago to stop vote harvesting by the democRATS, and the SCOTUS just upheld this ban......yea!!!! It is a FELONY in Az. to do this if caught.
November 05, 2016, 03:05 PM
pbslinger
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Originally posted by Mainframe Coder:
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Originally posted by 46and2: I'm sorry, Hillary's events this week in swing states do not feel like a winning campaign. Small, bad vibe. You can feel an enthusiasm problem.
Across the liberal media, the mood, the tone, the enthusiasm, is gone. These people work in the media full-time and they know how to read the landscape very well. They know what's about to happen on Tuesday. You can hear it in their voices and see it on their faces.
Remember these are the same schlubs that helped The Donald win the repub primary because they considered him so easily beatable in the general. That may turn out to have been a massive judgment error in hindsight
November 05, 2016, 03:09 PM
Mainframe Coder
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Originally posted by pbslinger:
Remember these are the same schlubs that helped The Donald win the repub primary because they considered him so easily beatable in the general. That may turn out to have been a massive judgment error in hindsight
To me, you have just expressed the great irony in this 2016 election. The same media that made sure Trump won the primary, because they thought he could easily be destroyed once it was too late to turn back, is about to lose to him in the general. Historians and the media will discuss and lament this outcome for centuries.
November 05, 2016, 03:48 PM
Pipe Smoker
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Originally posted by GT-40DOC: The US Supreme Court just voted to uphold the Az. ban on one person bringing in multiple ballot for "friends"!!!! Our Gov. signed this into law a few months ago to stop vote harvesting by the democRATS, and the SCOTUS just upheld this ban......yea!!!! It is a FELONY in Az. to do this if caught.
