For the folks in Utah, could you give us a hand? I saw Evan McMullin in an interview today. There is no question that his sole purpose for running is to throw the race into the House of Representatives by keeping Hillary and Trump from winning an electoral college majority. He said so. He also said that the approach was afoot in some other key states too.

McMullin was recruited through, neverTrump Bill Kristol. McMullin's vice presidential ticket mate is a former advisor to Mitt Romney. McMullin has no elected experience, is 40, unmarried and wants to stop Trump in hopes of making a new truly conservative party (in his eyes). Link

What can you all do in Utah to wake up the Mormon voters to understand that this guy just leads to more corruption? It's not that I'm saying he is corrupt but he only promises to either lose the election to Clinton or have the House, the beltway politicians who have not delivered on fixing government with conservative and honest principles despite our previous voting, pick someone for president that they like.

This guy may mean well in his own mind but he is naive and is not inspiring a nation or showing anything like Trump's national leadership for the common man/woman/inbetweens .

McMullin appears to want to lead a Mormon insurgency to nowhere. That is, except neverTrump. Many Mormons seem to not like Trump for his personal traits but he has the policies and the fire that we need.

Talk about a risk. McMullin has not been vetted by the political fires at all. Then again, even he does not expect to win. He just wants to derail the election to ensure that the people do not get to choose their president in favor of the beltway corruptocrats instead.

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Originally posted by justjoe:

But it still won't save Hillary. Eventually, corruption spills out into the light of day. Character is known. The grifters pulled it off for a long time, but that time is winding down.

Emerson put it well: "Character is always known... murder will speak out of stone walls."

I read your post and couldn't help but recall the final paragraph of Edgar Allan Poe's The Black Cat.

Of my own thoughts it is folly to speak. Swooning, I staggered to the opposite wall. For one instant the party upon the stairs remained motionless, through extremity of terror and awe. In the next a dozen stout arms were toiling at the wall. It fell bodily. The corpse, already greatly decayed and clotted with gore, stood erect before the eyes of the spectators. Upon its head, with red extended mouth and solitary eye of fire, sat the hideous beast whose craft had seduced me into murder, and whose informing voice had consigned me to the hangman. I had walled the monster up within the tomb!

This woman has buried so many secrets and buried so many people who have gotten in her way due to hubris, greed, arrogance, and malice that eventually the black cat among them will start howling and ultimately cause the whole bricked tomb to come crashing down revealing her dirty, vile crimes for all to see...

Voted today, my SO and I. Two for Trump. It was the first time she voted, ever, and she is 60. Only reason she voted this time was due to Trump.

Voted early today and wasn't surprised to see Trump Pence listed 4th on my MA ballot. Shockingly my town generally votes conservative though.

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Originally posted by liner:
Voted early today and wasn't surprised to see Trump Pence listed 4th on my MA ballot. Shockingly my town generally votes conservative though.

Same here. Not only that, my ballot was folded such that you didn't see Trump listed unless you unfold it.

Went browsing on the various MSM websites to see if the tone of their coverage was changing to position themselves for explaining a Trump victory.

Sure enough, nearly all have called off the 100% Trump attack dogs and were actually carrying negative Hillary content. Nearly all but....definitely not NBC. They've been the farthest left of the broadcast networks for decades and nothing has changed. A palpable, seething hatred for Trump just spills out of everything they do. Regardless of consequence, they seem intent on riding the Hillary train all the way to the wreck. Enjoy the ride!

I somehow get a happy feeling that the sorry SOB "the Weiner", who has been scorned and thrown away by both Clintons and wifey, can possibly bring the whole group down.....likely for a "deal". In that case, I will be comfortable with a deal!! Sooner or later Dickhead Weiner will do some serious time or worse, but do in the Clintons before you go away.....please!!

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Originally posted by Mainframe Coder:
Went browsing on the various MSM websites to see if the tone of their coverage was changing to position themselves for explaining a Trump victory.

Sure enough, nearly all have called off the 100% Trump attack dogs and were actually carrying negative Hillary content. Nearly all but....definitely not NBC. They've been the farthest left of the broadcast networks for decades and nothing has changed. A palpable, seething hatred for Trump just spills out of everything they do. Regardless of consequence, they seem intent on riding the Hillary train all the way to the wreck. Enjoy the ride!

Weren't the also the ones who had the "Hillary's up by 12% poll" last week?

The poll that was dumped on as "was never right" this morning by CBS?

And there ya go saying the "P" word again.

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Originally posted by Mainframe Coder:
Went browsing on the various MSM websites to see if the tone of their coverage was changing to position themselves for explaining a Trump victory.

Sure enough, nearly all have called off the 100% Trump attack dogs and were actually carrying negative Hillary content. Nearly all but....definitely not NBC. They've been the farthest left of the broadcast networks for decades and nothing has changed. A palpable, seething hatred for Trump just spills out of everything they do. Regardless of consequence, they seem intent on riding the Hillary train all the way to the wreck. Enjoy the ride!

I've stated in this thread a couple of times about my local fish wrap. For six or eight weeks, every morning above the fold there was either an article praising Hillary, or one attacking Trump. Three days so, it stopped.

This morning it stated that"Clinton Tries to Get Ahead of Emails". And in the first paragraph from the AP piece stated that she was failing.....

finally figured out how the Hildebeast is increasing her crowd size...

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And there ya go saying the "P" word again.

Thanks for that. Because I was talking about NBC still shilling while others are jumping off the train, not the content of the poll.

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Originally posted by GT-40DOC:
I somehow get a happy feeling that the sorry SOB "the Weiner", who has been scorned and thrown away by both Clintons and wifey, can possibly bring the whole group down.....likely for a "deal". In that case, I will be comfortable with a deal!! Sooner or later Dickhead Weiner will do some serious time or worse, but do in the Clintons before you go away.....please!!

In J. R. R. Tolkien's "Lord of the Rings", Gandalf was pleased that Bilbo didn't kill the evil Golum. He thought Golum might have an important role in the struggle against the Black Lord. And indeed, it was Golum that fell into the crack of doom, while wearing the Black Lord's ring of power, thus destroying him. Weiner might be our Golum.

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Originally posted by Mainframe Coder:
Went browsing on the various MSM websites to see if the tone of their coverage was changing to position themselves for explaining a Trump victory.

Sure enough, nearly all have called off the 100% Trump attack dogs and were actually carrying negative Hillary content. Nearly all but....definitely not NBC. They've been the farthest left of the broadcast networks for decades and nothing has changed. A palpable, seething hatred for Trump just spills out of everything they do. Regardless of consequence, they seem intent on riding the Hillary train all the way to the wreck. Enjoy the ride!

Weren't the also the ones who had the "Hillary's up by 12% poll" last week?

The poll that was dumped on as "was never right" this morning by CBS?

Yep, that was the one. I'm not a fan of Joe Scarborough but even he, an NBC employee, had the balls to stand up and say "ummm...I think our network cooked these numbers and I think our network should quit doing so...."

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Originally posted by deepocean:
All of the educated voters I have spoken to are voting for Trump. Those who are voting for McMullin are a unique group. They are so sure they are right, but to a person, most are wholly unfamiliar with the issues in this election. I wish they would stop playing games and just put Hillary signs in their yards.

I've seen one McMullin sign. One. I seriously doubt he is going to get as many votes as people think.

Thanks for the info. He may be getting an artificial "media" bump right now because the fallacious bandwagon plan for Hillary isn't working out.

Sometimes I think Trump's theme song should be "Ain't No Mountain High Enough."

What happened to all the great stories about Trump pinching a secretary 30 years ago?

Trump in Michigan:

https://youtu.be/P2tjDFIkRKo

Trump also slammed Hillary Clinton’s negative ads against him.

He said he saw a slew of her ads in Florida. “And they were so untrue.

“Most of them,” he joked.

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What happened to all the great stories about Trump pinching a secretary 30 years ago?

Damage control. All DEM hands and media advocates on deck for damage control. It's gotta be exhausting as hell for those assholes.

I just responded to Trumps's latest fund raising e-mail. Third donation for me, most ever.

If you can swing it, send the man another $25 or $50 - do what you can to push this into the history books.

Voted today.

Line was pretty long. Turnout may be historic.

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