I will be disappointed if Trump signs off on this and all indications are that he will.
It will be the beginning of the end of his run imo.
First off he already stated in front of 23 million people he wouldn't do it. People are counting on him doing what he says. It's part of what got him where he is, no backing down.

The GOP is playing on his arrogance and ego that he thinks he has the nomination in the bag when it's only September so he will say "sure I'll sign it what the hell, I'm going to be the nominee just look at the polls"!

The establishment will turn loose on him the same day he signs off. Once he signs his chances of becoming the nominee just hit zero. Couple that with his backers losing confidence and the air starting to escape the balloon he will be ripe bait for the debate coming up.

Don't do it Donald.

Trump will never be inside the tent.

BTW, what in Hell happened to Scott Walker? He is now in 8th place in the polls. He just kind of faded into the wallpaper.

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Originally posted by justjoe:
Trump will never be inside the tent.

BTW, what in Hell happened to Scott Walker? He is now in 8th place in the polls. He just kind of faded into the wallpaper.

Some probably like me think he looks like a bobble head doll answering questions.

This is still not a done deal, but:

A close associate tells POLITICO that Donald Trump plans to sign a loyalty pledge Thursday that would bind him to endorse the Republican nominee, and would preclude a third-party run. Trump made the stunning decision, which he has long resisted, to avoid complications in getting listed on primary ballots, and to take away an attack line in the next debate, the associate said.

But the close associate said Trump has decided to give the completed pledge to Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus during a meeting at Trump Tower shortly after 1 p.m. today. Trump is scheduled to hold a news conference on an unspecified topic at 2 p.m.

The next debate is Sept. 16, at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in southern California. The associate said Trump knew the third-party issue would again be a distraction, so he decided to close that door.



http://www.politico.com/story/...oyalty-pledge-213302

I think this would be a good move for Trump. He needs to bring on board voters who would have flat out rejected him if he was willing to go third party.

A third party Trump campaign would have handed the 2016 election to the Dems (MHO).

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Originally posted by justjoe:
Trump will never be inside the tent.

BTW, what in Hell happened to Scott Walker? He is now in 8th place in the polls. He just kind of faded into the wallpaper.

LOL

It's his own doing....

Of all the curiosities of the 2016 Republican presidential race — and there have been plenty — the quietest may also be the most difficult to answer. Over the last two months, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker has gone from leading the field to barely making the debate cut.

The most recent Monmouth University poll of likely Iowa caucus-goers shows Walker in deep trouble. In July, the Wisconsin governor dominated the field, scoring 22 percent over Donald Trump's 13 percent, with Ben Carson in third place at 8 percent. Other current and former governors in the race didn't even get to a third of Walker's support; Jeb Bush scored 7 percent (tied with Sen. Ted Cruz), Mike Huckabee got 6 percent, and Bobby Jindal was the second-highest sitting governor in the race at 4 percent. Walker appeared ready to take control of the key Iowa caucuses and put his prairie conservatism at the center of the GOP's appeal.

Instead, just a month later, Walker has disappeared into the ranks of the also-rans. Trump and Carson now tie at 23 percent, and Carly Fiorina has moved up to third place with 10 percent. None of these three have ever won public office before, and yet 56 percent of Monmouth University respondents chose them over the deep Republican bench of 2016. The most dramatic reversal in the poll was Walker's, whose support plummeted from 22 percent to 7 percent. Combined, the entire GOP bench of currently elected officials only garnered 29 percent — barely more than half of the majority siding with that trio of newcomers.

This is not an isolated phenomenon for Walker. In the spring and into early summer, his national polling average at Real Clear Politics put him in the mid-teens. After peaking at 17.3 percent in April — when Walker led the field — the Wisconsin governor who fought the unions and won has bled out quickly. Other than a brief spike in July, it's been all downhill, culminating in this week's brutal 6.7 percent rating, only good enough for a distant fifth place behind Trump, Carson, Bush, and Cruz. In the Hot Air-Townhall Media Group national online poll, Walker barely registered, only getting 1.3 percent of 469 Republican respondents.

Walker's performance woes are not entirely due to outside factors. He has stumbled repeatedly on policy, offering confusing and at times contradictory statements. Walker seemed initially skeptical of ethanol price supports, but shifted his rhetoric later. On immigration, Walker has been all over the map, seemingly trying to shift with the party on issues like birthright citizenship, where other Republican candidates have also struggled. A lackluster debate performance on Fox, combined with the distraction of the feud between Trump and Megyn Kelly, may have precipitated the most recent part of Walker's fade.

http://theweek.com/articles/57...appened-scott-walker

The GOP is fighting harder to get Trump to sign that pledge than they are to get anything else done.

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Originally posted by justjoe:
BTW, what in Hell happened to Scott Walker? He is now in 8th place in the polls. He just kind of faded into the wallpaper.

The first primary is in three months. At this point anyone who didn't break out early is husbanding their resources so they can try to blitz Iowa.

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What this is all about is making sure that they can't keep him off of primary ballots in some states that have a rule about this.

is this a real threat to his chances, not signing the pledge?

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:

The first primary is in three months.

Five.

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Originally posted by sdy:...

A third party Trump campaign would have handed the 2016 election to the Dems (MHO).

And if he signs this pledge and the GOP plays the old Lucy-football-Charlie Brown gag?

Trump signs, GOP says; "Thanks now go pound sand!"

Or am I just not understanding something?

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Originally posted by justjoe:
Trump will never be inside the tent.

BTW, what in Hell happened to Scott Walker? He is now in 8th place in the polls. He just kind of faded into the wallpaper.

doesn't matter

Trump just put up a new tent and the establishment isn't invited

and his tent is getting crowded

the GOP tent might as well be blown away in a storm - its full of useless people

I personally don't care if Trump runs for the Mickey and Mouse party - I will vote for him wherever he goes, because no matter how bad Trump might seem, he is still so far ahead of everyone else in recognizing our anger and digust

to me, thats worth my vote.

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Originally posted by Gustofer:

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:

The first primary is in three months.

Five.

OK, five. (I had thought it was January, but I guess Iowa's February first.) What's the practical difference in terms of electoral strategy, and what major events do you expect between now and then?

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I personally don't care if Trump runs for the Mickey and Mouse party - I will vote for him wherever he goes, because no matter how bad Trump might seem, he is still so far ahead of everyone else in recognizing our anger and digust

to me, thats worth my vote.

THIS !

I would be quite pleased if DT were to rewrite the pledge in his favor or announce at the 2pm press conference that he has fired the GOPe.

For Trump to sign or not sign is a risk trade off.

Yes, Rep Party might try to screw him after. He probably expects them to do that.

But Trump has to move to get the votes he needs in the primaries.

He might be thinking that the benefit of signing brings in enough additional primary votes to bump up his chances.

Trump knows the establishment doesn't want him. His moves aren't to make the party happy. He is focused on broadening his voter base. My thoughts.

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Originally posted by sdy:
Trump made the stunning decision, which he has long resisted, to avoid complications in getting listed on primary ballots, and to take away an attack line in the next debate, the associate said.

If true, he knows he will be the nominee.

Just some minor paperwork before he closes the deal.

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:

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Originally posted by sdy:...

A third party Trump campaign would have handed the 2016 election to the Dems (MHO).

And if he signs this pledge and the GOP plays the old Lucy-football-Charlie Brown gag?

Trump signs, GOP says; "Thanks now go pound sand!"

Or am I just not understanding something?

if he signs the pledge and doesn't get the nomination, as a result of GOPe maneuvering rather than a reflection of the will of the people, I will be livid - to say the least.

they better not fuck around like that, it'll surely guarantee a Dem victory.

my support for the GOP is barely hanging on as it is. and I am not alone in this regard.

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The GOP is fighting harder to get Trump to sign that pledge than they are to get anything else done.

Because they care about it. Mexicans and Hondurans, and assorted others, including terrorists, invading the country-- they don't give a shit. But their death grip on who is the (R) nominee? It is life and death to them.

About the pledge: His lawyers might have told him that because of some election rules, if he does not sign it could-- for some reason-- keep him out of primaries. Just speculating, could be totally wrong. Otherwise, it will be a big mistake for him to sign, for many reasons. Including the Lucy-Charlie-football.

When he refused to raise his hand he went up in the polls and is now leading by a large margin. He doesn't have to sign anything.

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Originally posted by 46and2:

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:

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Originally posted by sdy:...

A third party Trump campaign would have handed the 2016 election to the Dems (MHO).

And if he signs this pledge and the GOP plays the old Lucy-football-Charlie Brown gag?

Trump signs, GOP says; "Thanks now go pound sand!"

Or am I just not understanding something?

if he signs the pledge and doesn't get the nomination, as a result of GOPe maneuvering rather than a reflection of the will of the people, I will be livid - to say the least.

they better not fuck around like that, it'll surely guarantee a Dem victory.

my support for the GOP is barely hanging on as it is. and I am not alone in this regard.

OK, so my thinking that if Trump signs and the GOP turns their back, it may bring on a brouhaha with the people, and result in a split, but they blame DT for "running third party", and if Trump does not sign and runs third party, either way the GOP blames him?

So Dems blame Bush and the GOP wants their own dead horse, so that shoot the horse in the lead.

Oy.

There is a reason I neither play chess or engage in politics.

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Originally posted by Ackks:
The GOP is fighting harder to get Trump to sign that pledge than they are to get anything else done.

No kidding. Now if they would fight Obamacare as hard as they fight Trump........