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October 19, 2016, 10:57 PM
kimber1911
Donald Trump is a first-rate ass clown, but...
quote:
Originally posted by mekaus:
quote:
Originally posted by kimber1911:
Honestly, Hillary was the better debater tonight.
However, the debate was nothing spectacular.

I would call it a draw.
No minds were changed this evening.


What points in the debate persuaded you to come to this conclusion?

She is a polished politician.
Her poise and delivery seemed much more refined.
Simply as a debater her performance was better.

What points where made that weren't previously made?
I didn't see any new points being made on either side to do any persuading.



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October 19, 2016, 11:02 PM
Bisleyblackhawk
Donna Brazile is being put in a really bad place by Megan Kelly about the leaked emails showing CNN gave her the notes on the debates to help the harpy look polished...she denied it...Megan Kelly pushed her on it, showing the email on screen...all Brazile could mutter about they were doctored emails...

...last said that Kelly should "go to Russia" as she was leaving the interview...
Back in the day Brazile is also said that people in Tennessee were idiots for not carrying Garden Gate Gore and giving him the presidency...

She can eat a bag of dicks as far as I'm concerned Mad


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October 19, 2016, 11:03 PM
MitchbSC
Well, Hillary may have tipped her hand as a Master Debater by not letting pesky things like national security rules get in her away. The order-to-nukes-flying time was apparently not something to blab on national TV.




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October 19, 2016, 11:09 PM
signewt
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The order-to-nukes-flying time was apparently not something to blab on national TV.


that hit me as being a very questionable thing as well....although how could we believe IT was true any more than any other lie she spews.

Like some of the stupid remarks of Biden et al, in any number of 'unintended security lapses' over the last 8 loooooongg years of incompetent bureaucrats in office WAY too long.
October 19, 2016, 11:10 PM
oddball
If all the MSM can come with tonight is the "Trump won't say if he'll accept the results", I'm pleased.

They've got nothing. Nothing. NOTHING.

The Magic Bag of Tricks is getting smaller each day.



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October 19, 2016, 11:12 PM
a1abdj
quote:
They've got nothing. Nothing. NOTHING.



And between Wikileaks and PV, we should have plenty more.


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October 19, 2016, 11:12 PM
spunk639
quote:
Originally posted by kimber1911:
Honestly, Hillary was the better debater tonight.
However, the debate was nothing spectacular.

I would call it a draw.
No minds were changed this evening.


Seriously?

Did I watch a different debate?

A thirty year politican and forty year lawyer giving away subspeech and physical cues to dishonesty to a novice candidate?

I get it I was watching the Russian Comedy Channel version of the debate!
October 19, 2016, 11:14 PM
jimmy123x
quote:
Originally posted by kimber1911:
quote:
Originally posted by mekaus:
quote:
Originally posted by kimber1911:
Honestly, Hillary was the better debater tonight.
However, the debate was nothing spectacular.

I would call it a draw.
No minds were changed this evening.


What points in the debate persuaded you to come to this conclusion?

She is a polished politician.
Her poise and delivery seemed much more refined.
Simply as a debater her performance was better.

What points where made that weren't previously made?
I didn't see any new points being made on either side to do any persuading.


I DID. What about the Clinton Foundation and it's lack of doing anything in Haiti, or the $25 million Saudi Arabia gave them and qatar and how those countries harm women and children..... that stuck out to me as a new point. Hillary side stepped several questions with political canned BS but the questions still remained.

I think Trump missed a huge opportunity of bringing up, well if you didn't have 33,000 emails on a private unsecure server, Russia nobody would have anything to hack. I bet Putin is boiling when he keeps hearing Russia as the scapegoat.
October 19, 2016, 11:16 PM
jimmy123x
quote:
Originally posted by a1abdj:
quote:
They've got nothing. Nothing. NOTHING.



And between Wikileaks and PV, we should have plenty more.


Yeah, but the problem is the wikileaks stuff isn't getting much mainstream coverage.
October 19, 2016, 11:24 PM
TSE
Hilariously the CBC Canadian press blamed Trump for the press not doing its job and investigating Hillary more thoroughly. The talking head said Trump provided too much material so they didn't have time!


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October 19, 2016, 11:26 PM
mekaus
quote:
Originally posted by kimber1911:
quote:
Originally posted by mekaus:
quote:
Originally posted by kimber1911:
Honestly, Hillary was the better debater tonight.
However, the debate was nothing spectacular.

I would call it a draw.
No minds were changed this evening.


What points in the debate persuaded you to come to this conclusion?

She is a polished politician.
Her poise and delivery seemed much more refined.
Simply as a debater her performance was better.

What points where made that weren't previously made?
I didn't see any new points being made on either side to do any persuading.


That's kind of a Hillary answer. He brought up many points that called her out and she avoided them all.
I agree she's a polished debater and not many minds were changed, but he kicked her ass.

I may be biased against the she-devil, though.
October 19, 2016, 11:28 PM
Sailor1911
quote:
Originally posted by Bisleyblackhawk:
Donna Brazile is being put in a really bad place by Megan Kelly about the leaked emails showing CNN gave her the notes on the debates to help the harpy look polished...she denied it...Megan Kelly pushed her on it, showing the email on screen...all Brazile could mutter about they were doctored emails...

...last said that Kelly should "go to Russia" as she was leaving the interview...
Back in the day Brazile is also said that people in Tennessee were idiots for not carrying Garden Gate Gore and giving him the presidency...

She can eat a bag of dicks as far as I'm concerned Mad



Well, since they all didn't go to the training on classified info, they clearly spent their time in the Lying, denying, & covering class.




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October 19, 2016, 11:34 PM
Sigmanic
Well the poll results are coming in so we can clearly see who the winner was tonight.

Washington Times: Trump-77% Clinton-18%

CNN: Trump-39% Clinton-52%

So there you have it.
October 19, 2016, 11:37 PM
sigmonkey
My POV.

Hillary is absent from public eye leading up to the debates in order to get collagen and other tweaks to make her appear younger and more vital that she truly is.

In this debate, Chris Wallace stated "no questions were given to the parties..." (paraphrasing), but that does not mean that the Hillary camp, did not influence the selected questions that would make her appear stronger.

And Chris Wallace was not 50/50 neutral, rather obvious to me, that he very cunningly managed to steer and direct, deflect and (attempted) to control the outcome of what was said many times over.


I think Trump did very well considering all of this.

If this is the best Hillary, a seasoned veteran and insider can do against an unpolished non-politician and otherwise successful businessman, then she certainly is not any prize thoroughbred in a race, but a nag that is better suited for the glue factory and an end that changes her name to Alpo.

Sadly, a very few will be swayed to the Trump side, and as many might be fooled to the other.

And as has been stated, the game is already in the books, we just need to wait until the night of November 8th to see what played out.

Meanwhile, I have no fear, my rifle is clean, my bed is made and I'll sleep like a baby, until the sun breaks, or the alarm sounds.

Be ready, and know Who and What you will serve, today.

As for me, I know Whom I will serve.


Oh, and only polls that concern me...






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October 19, 2016, 11:41 PM
Gustofer
quote:
Originally posted by Bisleyblackhawk:
Donna Brazile is being put in a really bad place by Megan Kelly about the leaked emails showing CNN gave her the notes on the debates to help the harpy look polished...she denied it...Megan Kelly pushed her on it, showing the email on screen...all Brazile could mutter about they were doctored emails...

...last said that Kelly should "go to Russia" as she was leaving the interview...
Back in the day Brazile is also said that people in Tennessee were idiots for not carrying Garden Gate Gore and giving him the presidency...

She can eat a bag of dicks as far as I'm concerned Mad

These people are just plain sick.

Megyn tells her that she got her information from Podesta's email and Brazile's response is "Podesta's email was stolen!". Apparently the fact that his email was stolen completely negates any information therein. They will stop at nothing which is why they must be stopped.

http://www.realclearpolitics.c...t_be_persecuted.html


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October 19, 2016, 11:41 PM
sdy
I watched Megyn Kelly go after Brazille tonight.

I am no longer a fan of Kelly, but she did a number on Brazille. Who was babbling incohertenly. Kelly had her nailed.

http://www.realclearpolitics.c...t_be_persecuted.html

MEGYN KELLY: You're accused of receiving a debate question whether a CNN town hall where they partnered with TV One that you had this question on March 12th, that verbatim, verbatim was provided by Roland Martin to CNN the next day. How did you get that question, Donna?

DONNA BRAZILE: Well, Kelly, as I play straight up and with you, I did not receive any questions from CNN.

KELLY: Where did you get it.

BRAZILE: What information? Allow me to see what you're talking about?

KELLY: You've got the Wikileaks showing you messaging the Clinton campaign at the March 13th CNN debate.

BRAZILE: As a Christian woman, I understand persecution. your information is false. What you're -- well, for suggestive e-mails were stolen. You're interested and you're like a thief that wants to bring into the night the things that.

Brazile argued she will not "validate falsified information." Brazile said the e-mail is "altered."

KELLY: CNN' Jake Tapper said this was unethical. Someone was unethically helping the Clinton campaign. He said this is very, very upsetting.

BRAZILE: I love CNN

KELLY: This is Jake Tapper: 'My understand is that the e-mails came from Roland Martin and said this is very upsetting and troubling.'

That is your old colleague at CNN not Megyn Kelly. Who gave you that question?

BRAZILE: Megyn, I'll say it on the record. I'm not going to try to validate falsified information. I have my documents. I have my files. Thank God I have not had my personal e-mails ripped off from me and stolen and given to some criminals to come back altered. I have my records and files. And as i said repeatedly, CNN, I never received anything.

and there was this:

https://youtu.be/q-JChl8w6oQ
October 19, 2016, 11:48 PM
BBMW
Breitbart, which leans right Trump 39 - Clinton 61

quote:
Originally posted by Sigmanic:
Well the poll results are coming in so we can clearly see who the winner was tonight.

Washington Times: Trump-77% Clinton-18%

CNN: Trump-39% Clinton-52%

So there you have it.

October 19, 2016, 11:53 PM
henry claude lemoine
[QUOTE]Originally posted by sigmonkey:
My POV.

Hillary is absent from public eye leading up to the debates in order to get collagen and other tweaks to make her appear younger and more vital that she truly is.

In this debate, Chris Wallace stated "no questions were given to the parties..." (paraphrasing), but that does not mean that the Hillary camp, did not influence the selected questions that would make her appear stronger.

And Chris Wallace was not 50/50 neutral, rather obvious to me, that he very cunningly managed to steer and direct, deflect and (attempted) to control the outcome of what was said many times over.


I think Trump did very well considering all of this.

If this is the best Hillary, a seasoned veteran and insider can do against an unpolished non-politician and otherwise successful businessman, then she certainly is not any prize thoroughbred in a race, but a nag that is better suited for the glue factory and an end that changes her name to Alpo.

Sadly, a very few will be swayed to the Trump side, and as many might be fooled to the other.

And as has been stated, the game is already in the books, we just need to wait until the night of November 8th to see what played out.

Meanwhile, I have no fear, my rifle is clean, my bed is made and I'll sleep like a baby, until the sun breaks, or the alarm sounds.

Be ready, and know Who and What you will serve, today.

As for me, I know Whom I will serve.


Oh, and only polls that concern me..



Yes,I saw it that way also.
October 19, 2016, 11:54 PM
bigdeal
quote:
Originally posted by BBMW:
Breitbart, which leans right Trump 39 - Clinton 61

quote:
Originally posted by Sigmanic:
Well the poll results are coming in so we can clearly see who the winner was tonight.

Washington Times: Trump-77% Clinton-18%

CNN: Trump-39% Clinton-52%

So there you have it.
God, can we please have some more polling results. Pretty please! Roll Eyes

As has been stated ad nauseum throughout this thread, all this polling is as worthless as 'tits on a bull'. We'll see soon enough what the actual results will be.

And probably more interesting to some, the Indians are in the World Series [And the crowd goes wild!] and the Cubs tied their series with the Dodgers at 2-2.


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October 19, 2016, 11:58 PM
wingspar
Flinging dirt. Not much else happened tonight. Should Trump win, I’m going to take art lessons and become a political cartoonist. Trump will be a dream come true for political cartoonists.


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