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Originally posted by 46and2:
puritanical fucksticks are somehow even more annoying than everything else going on.

Yeah, I agree.

Idealism vs. realism folks. Do you want clinton? If no, vote Trump. If yes then stay home because it is as good as a vote for her since her supporters won't be staying home.

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Originally posted by Bassamatic:
What continues to amaze me is how many people (gun owners to boot) here on the forum just cannot get their feeble brains around one simple fact. Not voting for Trump is a vote for Hillary.

It just shouldn't be that hard to grasp.

Another way to think about it - how can someone despise both candidates so much that they are fine with either one winning? Personally, I can't comprehend having a traitor as the Commander in Chief.

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Originally posted by domcintosh:
No. A vote not for Trump is not a vote for Clinton. A vote for Clinton is not a vote for Trump. A vote for neither is not a vote for either.

Pound sand.

Cool your jets.

All these Senators and Republicans "un-endorsing" Trump. Why? What are they afraid of if Trump is elected? Financial? Political power? Secrets released about what Washington politics are really like?

They expect the backing and support of the Republican party. Yet, they do not support "outsiders" in the party. These guys get hookers given to them for their "consideration" of some shady backroom deal. They are no better than Trump, but now stand in unity, about not objectifying women.

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Originally posted by domcintosh:

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Originally posted by Jimineer:

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Originally posted by Dresden:
Sorry to rain on the parade, but I have never made those kinds of remarks about women. I would shut someone saying that kind of trash down.

I can't vote for Hilary but I won't vote for Trump. He's a filthy reprobate. Hillary is a liar and a traitor. Anyone who would vote for either one needs a shower.

You are in a sticky situation then. No vote for Trump is effectively a vote for Clinton. Ain't no way around it.

No. A vote not for Trump is not a vote for Clinton. A vote for Clinton is not a vote for Trump. A vote for neither is not a vote for either.

Pound sand.

Honestly, I don't give a crap about what Trump said. I honestly don't really care about Trump as a person either. I HOWEVER, will vote for the person who will uphold my rights and liberties as well as keep me safe from danger (terrorist attacks, war, etc.) and that person will be TRUMP.

And, yes, not voting for Trump gives Hillary an advantage over getting off your butt and voting for him.....All those normal Republicans like Boener and Paul Ryan have been working well protecting your interests and rights haven't they????

The rino's like Ryan and McCain are despised, hopefully they don't think we actually care what they think.

Trump 2016
Make America Great Again
Make America Safe Again

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Originally posted by Dresden:
Sorry to rain on the parade, but I have never made those kinds of remarks about women. I would shut someone saying that kind of trash down.

I can't vote for Hilary but I won't vote for Trump. He's a filthy reprobate. Hillary is a liar and a traitor. Anyone who would vote for either one needs a shower.

Well, let me know how that not voting for one of them works out for you...

Principles are a wonderful thing to have, but there is a point where being practical is more effective. Nothing wrong or unprincipled with going to "plan B" when "plan A" fails.

One of them is going to be president, if you don't vote (or vote a 3rd party) you are not being noble, you are simply wasting your time and effectively saying you don't care who becomes president. To claim some higher moral ground in doing so is nothing more than academic mental masturbation.

I agree, they both are sub-standard and pretty amoral people. My vote isn't about liking them or codoning the things they have done or said, it is simply about one thing only- between the two, who do I think would be better as President? Tunnel-vision in on things relevant to that job and ignore the distractions.

I say this as someone who proudly (at the time) voted for Ross Perot. I learned my lesson and have become wiser with age. I can admit that given our current system, by voting Perot I helped Bill Clinton become president.

Just imagine what the country will be like a few years after Hillary picks a new SCOTUS judge.

I would vote for just about any living human before Hillary.

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Just imagine what the country will be like a few years after Hillary picks THREE new SCOTUS judges.

FIFY

Just a thought, Trump was a Democrat when he made those remarks. doesn't that mean, by their rules, that he gets a pass?

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Originally posted by zoom6zoom:

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Just imagine what the country will be like a few years after Hillary picks THREE new SCOTUS judges.

FIFY

Just a thought, Trump was a Democrat when he made those remarks. doesn't that mean, by their rules, that he gets a pass?

Yeah, but he's got an (R) next to his name, so it doesn't count.

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Originally posted by Dresden:
Sorry to rain on the parade, but I have never made those kinds of remarks about women. I would shut someone saying that kind of trash down.
I can't vote for Hilary but I won't vote for Trump. He's a filthy reprobate. Hillary is a liar and a traitor. Anyone who would vote for either one needs a shower.

I think that anyone voting for HilLIAR is every bit as much of a traitor as she is.

I can tell by your reaction to the Trump recording that you have never worked or set foot in a fire station, (can't speak for police stations) and possibly have never been in a primarily male dominated environment.
If you think you would "shut someone saying that kind of trash down", I've got some terrible news for you - they would have no fucks to give.

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Originally posted by phydough:
All these Senators and Republicans "un-endorsing" Trump. Why? What are they afraid of if Trump is elected? Financial? Political power? Secrets released about what Washington politics are really like?

They expect the backing and support of the Republican party. Yet, they do not support "outsiders" in the party. These guys get hookers given to them for their "consideration" of some shady backroom deal. They are no better than Trump, but now stand in unity, about not objectifying women.

Their wives made them do it.

I'll take reprobate over traitor any time.

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Originally posted by 2012BOSS302:
The rino's like Ryan and McCain are despised, hopefully they don't think we actually care what they think.

Trump 2016
Make America Great Again
Make America Safe Again

The problem is that any of the established politicians don't actually care what WE think except at election time.

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He's a filthy reprobate

That is just the type of person we deplorable types look up to. Just saying.

That's a really foolish statement.

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Originally posted by domcintosh:

No. A vote not for Trump is not a vote for Clinton. A vote for Clinton is not a vote for Trump. A vote for neither is not a vote for either.

Pound sand.

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Originally posted by domcintosh:

No. A vote not for Trump is not a vote for Clinton. A vote for Clinton is not a vote for Trump. A vote for neither is not a vote for either.

Pound sand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...miWiNqOw&app=desktop

President Obama says, "Gotta have them ribs and p*ssy too!"

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Originally posted by domcintosh:
No. A vote not for Trump is not a vote for Clinton. A vote for Clinton is not a vote for Trump. A vote for neither is not a vote for either.

Feel good about being technically correct, but that’s all it is. It’s no different than saying, “I didn’t start the fire that burned the forest; the lit cigarette I threw from my car window did that.” You’re trying to justify yourself by pretending that actions have no consequences beyond the most immediate one: “All I did was mark an X on a piece of paper; I share no responsibility for what happened after that.”

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Originally posted by TigerDore:

That's a really foolish statement.

OK, there might be some truth to a single vote - or non-vote - out of ~150 million not statistically influencing the outcome of the election. What I can't stand is the attitude.