You're late Ted but glad you are finally on board! Pence played the go between and he is proving he will be a great VP. Donald shows he is a class act by thanking Cruz for the endorsement. Well done Donald! Now that all of the republicans are on the Trump train get busy boys and go roll that bitch up!
September 23, 2016, 06:21 PM
clayflingythingy
quote:
Originally posted by sdy: Been a good day for Trump.
Cruz endorsement Tea Party endorsement Ricketts family endorsement
Good news for us too. This wouldn't be happening if these people didn't think Trump is competitive.
We need to pressure all of the NeverTrumpers and make them more & more marginal.
I saw a report that team Trump has been reviewing years of tape on Clinton to pick up "tells" when she feels weak or evasive.
I am still struggling w the fact that Trump's crowds are in the thousands of very enthusiastic supporters, while Clinton's "crowds" are about 200. Are the polls way off ?
The crowd sizes seem so significant because you see them and they are real. Anyhow, the only way to play this is to go all out and try to get every vote for Trump.
In 1984 Walter Mondale was drawing HUGE crowds, as in the many thousands (kind of like Trump is doing today).
Mondale lost in a landslide. Only his home state of MN voted for him.
Hillary has a lock on a good many states (NY, NJ, CA, OR, WA, IL, etc.). Crowd size doesn't really have much meaning.
September 23, 2016, 06:32 PM
justjoe
Cruz said, "Never Hillary!"
Okay then. Now we are getting into focus on the real enemy.
Thanks for that, clayflingythingy. Because Trump is really so much like Walter Mondale, and Mondale's followers are just like Trump's. You really have you finger on the pulse of this nation.
"You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone."
September 23, 2016, 06:50 PM
entropy
He was making a valid point. It will be interesting to see how some of the "locked up states" pan out. Im sure Cook County will be voting 163% for the beast.
-------------------------------------- "There are things we know. There are things we dont know. Then there are the things we dont know that we dont know."
September 23, 2016, 07:05 PM
justjoe
What is gained for us if we whine that, well, you know, Hillary has a lot of states locked up...and Trump might lose in a landslide. (The clear implication of the comparison with Mondale.)
I don't get that, the "point" of doing that. It would be like getting in a ring and saying, "Jeez, my opponent has a vicious left hook, and I might get knocked out cold."
"You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone."
September 23, 2016, 07:15 PM
deepocean
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
And hey, if nothing else, the Cruz endorsement may finally shore up the Utah vote!
I hope you are correct, but I am supremely disappointed by those here who seem to be against Trump no matter what.
But so what, on to victory we go.
September 23, 2016, 07:25 PM
Bytes
I think Cruz helps. At a minimum it will make Glen Beck STFU, or at least stifle him. I hate that piece of shit but he does have a fairly large audience.
September 23, 2016, 07:28 PM
Mainframe Coder
quote:
Originally posted by clayflingythingy:
In 1984 Walter Mondale was drawing HUGE crowds, as in the many thousands (kind of like Trump is doing today).
A correction and an observation or two.
It's erroneous to state that Mondale was drawing "huge" crowds. Mondale didn't have much support, or attendance at rally stops, until the last week of the race. He had a large crowd hear him speak in NYC right before the election but that was a crowd of opportunity; they would have been in the area anyway. From the convention until late October, Mondale-Ferraro did not generate much excitement at campaign stops.
By contrast, Trump is drawing 10K+, 15K in some cases, all across the country. He is also drawing 20k+ on YouTube to see his rally stops live. Hillary? 500 is a great crowd at her events and 500 is also a great audience to see her live on YouTube.
The variables for Mondale and Trump are also completely different. Mondale was up against an incumbent who, at the time, was the most popular President in history. Reagan was a national hero. Obama? He's finishing a 2nd term which always favors the nominee in the opposing party. Trump is also a candidate unlike any we've ever seen. While Mondale was always 15+ points behind in the polls, Trump leads in all credible polls as I type this. There is a realistic belief that Trump can win.
Comparing Mondale to Trump doesn't work. FWIW, I am an American historian and this stuff is in my head as easily as what you had for lunch today is in yours.
Trump will carry a minimum of 25 states. Clinton will carry a minimum of 19 states (and the District of Columbia.) What happens in the other 6 states will decide the outcome.
Crowd size? It is amazingly relevant. There is no fire for Hillary among likely Democratic voters (kind of like Mondale.) Trump? There is a fire out there unlike anything since Reagan. Trump speaks in the largest venues available and fills them. Hillary is lucky to draw 500 and many of them are paid attendees. Enthusiasm among the population is a great barometer of what is going to happen in November.
We have no idea yet what is going to happen on November 8th but history offers a lot of suggestions. Using nothing but history as a guide, I find it likely that Trump is going to win. There is much about which to be optimistic.
September 23, 2016, 07:29 PM
sdy
Polls over last few weeks have been very good for Trump in Utah. +11 to +19 over Clinton
It appears people in Utah saw through the pawn Evan McMullin
September 23, 2016, 07:33 PM
gw3971
No way Utah votes for Hillary! No way. Hillary has little support here even from hard core dems. The dems are looking for reasons to stay home.
September 23, 2016, 07:34 PM
Balzé Halzé
Yeah, no way. We're solid here in Utah.
~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country
Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan
September 23, 2016, 08:03 PM
sdy
Class move.
“I am greatly honored by the endorsement of Senator Cruz. We have fought the battle and he was a tough and brilliant opponent,” Trump responded in a press release Friday afternoon.
“I look forward to working with him for many years to come in order to make America great again.”
September 23, 2016, 08:40 PM
oddball
quote:
Originally posted by darthfuster: Glenn Beck will be along shortly to offer his half hearted endorsement I'm sure...
Nope.
quote:
Profoundly sad day for me.
Disappointment does not begin to describe.
Maybe it is time to go to the mountains for a while.
"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
September 23, 2016, 08:49 PM
signewt
quote:
Maybe it is time to go to the mountains for a while.
if that's a quote from Beck he could as well go sit on the ice flow and wait for the scavengers
September 23, 2016, 09:04 PM
parabellum
"The world's in a bad way, my man, And bound to be worse before it mends; Better lie up in the mountains here Four or five centuries, While the stars go over the lonely ocean," - Robinson Jeffers
September 23, 2016, 09:04 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by oddball:
quote:
Originally posted by darthfuster: Glenn Beck will be along shortly to offer his half hearted endorsement I'm sure...
Nope.
quote:
Profoundly sad day for me.
Disappointment does not begin to describe.
Maybe it is time to go to the mountains for a while.
1 : marked by sorrow or melancholy : sad 2 : pitifully inferior or inadequate 3 : Glenn Beck
Picture of Pathetic Loser
What in the...? This dude is Looney Tunes:
"His disdain for Trump reached a crescendo when the former radio shock jock joined his co-hosts in donning swim goggles and rubbing his face in a bowl of crushed Cheetos to see if he could “look like Donald Trump.”
~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country
Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan
September 23, 2016, 09:45 PM
jimmy123x
quote:
Originally posted by clayflingythingy:
quote:
Originally posted by sdy: Been a good day for Trump.
Cruz endorsement Tea Party endorsement Ricketts family endorsement
Good news for us too. This wouldn't be happening if these people didn't think Trump is competitive.
We need to pressure all of the NeverTrumpers and make them more & more marginal.
I saw a report that team Trump has been reviewing years of tape on Clinton to pick up "tells" when she feels weak or evasive.
I am still struggling w the fact that Trump's crowds are in the thousands of very enthusiastic supporters, while Clinton's "crowds" are about 200. Are the polls way off ?
The crowd sizes seem so significant because you see them and they are real. Anyhow, the only way to play this is to go all out and try to get every vote for Trump.
In 1984 Walter Mondale was drawing HUGE crowds, as in the many thousands (kind of like Trump is doing today).
Mondale lost in a landslide. Only his home state of MN voted for him.
Hillary has a lock on a good many states (NY, NJ, CA, OR, WA, IL, etc.). Crowd size doesn't really have much meaning.
I'm not so sure Hillary has a lock on NY and NJ. I think people are getting tired of the communist crap going on in NY, and Trump is from NY and has a strong business presence in NJ..... Those two states I would say are 50/50 at this point in time.
September 23, 2016, 09:51 PM
sigmonkey
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
quote:
Originally posted by oddball:
quote:
Originally posted by darthfuster: Glenn Beck will be along shortly to offer his half hearted endorsement I'm sure...
Nope.
quote:
Profoundly sad day for me.
Disappointment does not begin to describe.
Maybe it is time to go to the mountains for a while.
1 : marked by sorrow or melancholy : sad 2 : pitifully inferior or inadequate 3 : Glenn Beck
Picture of Pathetic Loser
What in the...? This dude is Looney Tunes:
"His disdain for Trump reached a crescendo when the former radio shock jock joined his co-hosts in donning swim goggles and rubbing his face in a bowl of crushed Cheetos to see if he could “look like Donald Trump.”
He'd make better money giving blowies on West Madison and Cicero Ave.
Fucktard.
"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב!
September 23, 2016, 09:58 PM
oddball
Republican #NeverTrumps are pussies.
IMO, when it comes down to it, when they are hidden behind the little curtain at the polling booth, I betcha dollars to donuts they will vote for Trump.
"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
September 23, 2016, 10:32 PM
Copefree
Are the "kids" gonna live with Trump in the White House?
