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September 23, 2016, 01:54 PM
parabellum
Donald Trump is a first-rate ass clown, but...
I said that's enough. Do you require clarification?

I do not like hits after the bell.
September 23, 2016, 02:45 PM
stickman428
Cruz just posted on his facespace account that he will be voting for Trump.


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September 23, 2016, 02:46 PM
ChicagoSigMan
From Ted Cruz's Facebook page:

This election is unlike any other in our nation’s history. Like many other voters, I have struggled to determine the right course of action in this general election.
In Cleveland, I urged voters, “please, don’t stay home in November. Stand, and speak, and vote your conscience, vote for candidates up and down the ticket whom you trust to defend our freedom and to be faithful to the Constitution.”
After many months of careful consideration, of prayer and searching my own conscience, I have decided that on Election Day, I will vote for the Republican nominee, Donald Trump.
I’ve made this decision for two reasons. First, last year, I promised to support the Republican nominee. And I intend to keep my word.
Second, even though I have had areas of significant disagreement with our nominee, by any measure Hillary Clinton is wholly unacceptable — that’s why I have always been #NeverHillary.
Six key policy differences inform my decision. First, and most important, the Supreme Court. For anyone concerned about the Bill of Rights — free speech, religious liberty, the Second Amendment — the Court hangs in the balance. I have spent my professional career fighting before the Court to defend the Constitution. We are only one justice away from losing our most basic rights, and the next president will appoint as many as four new justices. We know, without a doubt, that every Clinton appointee would be a left-wing ideologue. Trump, in contrast, has promised to appoint justices “in the mold of Scalia.”
For some time, I have been seeking greater specificity on this issue, and today the Trump campaign provided that, releasing a very strong list of potential Supreme Court nominees — including Sen. Mike Lee, who would make an extraordinary justice — and making an explicit commitment to nominate only from that list. This commitment matters, and it provides a serious reason for voters to choose to support Trump.
Second, Obamacare. The failed healthcare law is hurting millions of Americans. If Republicans hold Congress, leadership has committed to passing legislation repealing Obamacare. Clinton, we know beyond a shadow of doubt, would veto that legislation. Trump has said he would sign it.
Third, energy. Clinton would continue the Obama administration’s war on coal and relentless efforts to crush the oil and gas industry. Trump has said he will reduce regulations and allow the blossoming American energy renaissance to create millions of new high-paying jobs.
Fourth, immigration. Clinton would continue and even expand President Obama’s lawless executive amnesty. Trump has promised that he would revoke those illegal executive orders.
Fifth, national security. Clinton would continue the Obama administration’s willful blindness to radical Islamic terrorism. She would continue importing Middle Eastern refugees whom the FBI cannot vet to make sure they are not terrorists. Trump has promised to stop the deluge of unvetted refugees.
Sixth, Internet freedom. Clinton supports Obama’s plan to hand over control of the Internet to an international community of stakeholders, including Russia, China, and Iran. Just this week, Trump came out strongly against that plan, and in support of free speech online.
These are six vital issues where the candidates’ positions present a clear choice for the American people.
If Clinton wins, we know — with 100% certainty — that she would deliver on her left-wing promises, with devastating results for our country.
My conscience tells me I must do whatever I can to stop that.
We also have seen, over the past few weeks and months, a Trump campaign focusing more and more on freedom — including emphasizing school choice and the power of economic growth to lift African-Americans and Hispanics to prosperity.
Finally, after eight years of a lawless Obama administration, targeting and persecuting those disfavored by the administration, fidelity to the rule of law has never been more important.
The Supreme Court will be critical in preserving the rule of law. And, if the next administration fails to honor the Constitution and Bill of Rights, then I hope that Republicans and Democrats will stand united in protecting our fundamental liberties.
Our country is in crisis. Hillary Clinton is manifestly unfit to be president, and her policies would harm millions of Americans. And Donald Trump is the only thing standing in her way.
A year ago, I pledged to endorse the Republican nominee, and I am honoring that commitment. And if you don’t want to see a Hillary Clinton presidency, I encourage you to vote for him.
September 23, 2016, 02:59 PM
egregore
quote:
From Ted Cruz's Facebook page:
...

Although maybe a bit belated, I'm good with that.
September 23, 2016, 03:03 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by Tubetone:
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:


You're being very dishonest in your account of things here.


With Para's indulgence, you have called me dishonest and you are wrong.

I am not intending to discuss this but I do not believe I should let myself be publicly called "dishonest" without a response. Mistaken, misunderstanding or any number of words are not the same as calling someone dishonest.


I apologize to you upfront then and will leave it at that. We can otherwise discuss it via email if you want.

For the record, Tubetone, I don't believe you to be a dishonest person.


~Alan

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September 23, 2016, 03:11 PM
Tubetone
Thank you for that. I tried to encapsulate quickly - obviously, too quickly.

It is so nice to hear that Cruz stated a bit ago that he WILL honor his commitment.

We have a shared mission.


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September 23, 2016, 03:19 PM
Fla. Jim
quote:
Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
From Ted Cruz's Facebook page:

This election is unlike any other in our nation’s history. Like many other voters, I have struggled to determine the right course of action in this general election.
In Cleveland, I urged voters, “please, don’t stay home in November. Stand, and speak, and vote your conscience, vote for candidates up and down the ticket whom you trust to defend our freedom and to be faithful to the Constitution.”
After many months of careful consideration, of prayer and searching my own conscience, I have decided that on Election Day, I will vote for the Republican nominee, Donald Trump.
I’ve made this decision for two reasons. First, last year, I promised to support the Republican nominee. And I intend to keep my word.
Second, even though I have had areas of significant disagreement with our nominee, by any measure Hillary Clinton is wholly unacceptable — that’s why I have always been #NeverHillary.
Six key policy differences inform my decision. First, and most important, the Supreme Court. For anyone concerned about the Bill of Rights — free speech, religious liberty, the Second Amendment — the Court hangs in the balance. I have spent my professional career fighting before the Court to defend the Constitution. We are only one justice away from losing our most basic rights, and the next president will appoint as many as four new justices. We know, without a doubt, that every Clinton appointee would be a left-wing ideologue. Trump, in contrast, has promised to appoint justices “in the mold of Scalia.”
For some time, I have been seeking greater specificity on this issue, and today the Trump campaign provided that, releasing a very strong list of potential Supreme Court nominees — including Sen. Mike Lee, who would make an extraordinary justice — and making an explicit commitment to nominate only from that list. This commitment matters, and it provides a serious reason for voters to choose to support Trump.
Second, Obamacare. The failed healthcare law is hurting millions of Americans. If Republicans hold Congress, leadership has committed to passing legislation repealing Obamacare. Clinton, we know beyond a shadow of doubt, would veto that legislation. Trump has said he would sign it.
Third, energy. Clinton would continue the Obama administration’s war on coal and relentless efforts to crush the oil and gas industry. Trump has said he will reduce regulations and allow the blossoming American energy renaissance to create millions of new high-paying jobs.
Fourth, immigration. Clinton would continue and even expand President Obama’s lawless executive amnesty. Trump has promised that he would revoke those illegal executive orders.
Fifth, national security. Clinton would continue the Obama administration’s willful blindness to radical Islamic terrorism. She would continue importing Middle Eastern refugees whom the FBI cannot vet to make sure they are not terrorists. Trump has promised to stop the deluge of unvetted refugees.
Sixth, Internet freedom. Clinton supports Obama’s plan to hand over control of the Internet to an international community of stakeholders, including Russia, China, and Iran. Just this week, Trump came out strongly against that plan, and in support of free speech online.
These are six vital issues where the candidates’ positions present a clear choice for the American people.
If Clinton wins, we know — with 100% certainty — that she would deliver on her left-wing promises, with devastating results for our country.
My conscience tells me I must do whatever I can to stop that.
We also have seen, over the past few weeks and months, a Trump campaign focusing more and more on freedom — including emphasizing school choice and the power of economic growth to lift African-Americans and Hispanics to prosperity.
Finally, after eight years of a lawless Obama administration, targeting and persecuting those disfavored by the administration, fidelity to the rule of law has never been more important.
The Supreme Court will be critical in preserving the rule of law. And, if the next administration fails to honor the Constitution and Bill of Rights, then I hope that Republicans and Democrats will stand united in protecting our fundamental liberties.
Our country is in crisis. Hillary Clinton is manifestly unfit to be president, and her policies would harm millions of Americans. And Donald Trump is the only thing standing in her way.
A year ago, I pledged to endorse the Republican nominee, and I am honoring that commitment. And if you don’t want to see a Hillary Clinton presidency, I encourage you to vote for him.


Way,way to late. Just to have a talking point in 4 yrs.
September 23, 2016, 03:22 PM
RichardC
quote:
Originally posted by Fla. Jim:

Way,way to late. Just to have a talking point in 4 yrs.




Four years? Maybe he'll be a Trump appointee sooner.


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September 23, 2016, 03:32 PM
46and2
Damn, talk about waiting until the 11th hour... Smile

At least his comments were on point, however late.
September 23, 2016, 03:39 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by Fla. Jim:

Way,way to late. Just to have a talking point in 4 yrs.


I don't believe it's too late; we haven't even had the first debate yet. And that was a very strong statement and endorsement from Cruz right at a time when people are about to really start paying attention to this race. This is the point before the election where Trump can really start picking up some headway and just steamroll over Hillary.

I was and am still a bit disappointed in how Cruz ended his speech at the convention, but nevertheless i am very pleased by this statement by him.


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September 23, 2016, 03:46 PM
sdy
Been a good day for Trump.

Cruz endorsement
Tea Party endorsement
Ricketts family endorsement

Good news for us too. This wouldn't be happening if these people didn't think Trump is competitive.

We need to pressure all of the NeverTrumpers and make them more & more marginal.

I saw a report that team Trump has been reviewing years of tape on Clinton to pick up "tells" when she feels weak or evasive.

I am still struggling w the fact that Trump's crowds are in the thousands of very enthusiastic supporters, while Clinton's "crowds" are about 200. Are the polls way off ?

The crowd sizes seem so significant because you see them and they are real. Anyhow, the only way to play this is to go all out and try to get every vote for Trump.
September 23, 2016, 03:53 PM
darthfuster
Glenn Beck will be along shortly to offer his half hearted endorsement I'm sure...



You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
September 23, 2016, 03:54 PM
mbinky
I read an article on Fox this morning about the differences in their crowds. Joe Trippi had a quote: "If they can only get 'Aunt Edna' out of her house one time, you better make sure it's to the ballot booth". Which I found funny seeing how, if you remember the original Vacation, Aunt Edna was dead. Must have been a Democrat Smile

http://www.foxnews.com/politic...llies-big-halls.html
September 23, 2016, 04:49 PM
nhtagmember
Cruz saw the writing on the wall but he's a known liar

so the fact that he says he will vote for Trump rings a bit thin

someone better watch him cast that ballot to keep him to his word

otherwise he's just pissing in the wind

I wouldn't trust him to valet park my car



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September 23, 2016, 04:53 PM
darthfuster
Yes Ted, how can we believe you?



You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
September 23, 2016, 05:19 PM
Tubetone
quote:
Originally posted by darthfuster:
Yes Ted, how can we believe you?


It is not his words about what he'll do in secret on election day that will be near as important as his deeds between now and then.

Help, support and advance the nominee. Public actions will do at least something for Cruz as a team player if he can start putting points on the board.


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September 23, 2016, 05:27 PM
entropy
quote:
Originally posted by darthfuster:
Glenn Beck will be along shortly to offer his half hearted endorsement I'm sure...


He make a short statement from the bunker soon. Surrounded of course with newly packaged freeze dried food.


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September 23, 2016, 05:31 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by entropy:
quote:
Originally posted by darthfuster:
Glenn Beck will be along shortly to offer his half hearted endorsement I'm sure...


He make a short statement from the bunker soon. Surrounded of course with newly packaged freeze dried food.


~chuckle~

And hey, if nothing else, the Cruz endorsement may finally shore up the Utah vote! Smile


~Alan

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Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan

September 23, 2016, 05:32 PM
46and2
^ Smile

Maybe a Gold or Silver ingot commercial, too.
September 23, 2016, 05:47 PM
erj_pilot
So what is George H.W. Bush gonna do? I know the "media" said he was going to vote for the hag, but was that confirmed? Denied? What?

If the Bush's vote HAG, that will SORELY disappointment me. SORELY.....



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