Originally posted by 46and2: That said, Sanders' rallies were similarly large, his base of motivated supporters were as active and enthusiastic as I've seen anywhere, and in the end it wasn't enough to win...
Apples & oranges. The Democratic primary was rigged with "superdelegates" that had no relationship to the level of support Sanders was receiving. In an actual one man, one vote scenario, Sanders wins easily. It was only the staged, rigged process of the Dems' primary that allowed Hillary to win.
There are no superdelegates on November 8th.
August 10, 2016, 02:15 PM
JALLEN
For all the pollsters, prognosticators, forecasters and analysts:
Uncle Fred noted Truman was the "first president to lose in a Gallup and win in a walk."
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.
When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
August 10, 2016, 02:16 PM
Balzé Halzé
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Originally posted by Mainframe Coder:
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Originally posted by 46and2: That said, Sanders' rallies were similarly large, his base of motivated supporters were as active and enthusiastic as I've seen anywhere, and in the end it wasn't enough to win...
Apples & oranges. The Democratic primary was rigged with "superdelegates" that had no relationship to the level of support Sanders was receiving. In an actual one man, one vote scenario, Sanders wins easily. It was only the staged, rigged process of the Dems' primary that allowed Hillary to win.
There are no superdelegates on November 8th.
Remember Mondale?
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August 10, 2016, 02:21 PM
46and2
I suspect it's more like Oranges vs Tangelos, but yes - there are differences.
August 10, 2016, 03:26 PM
sdy
This report says the DoJ refused an FBI request to investigate the Clinton Foundation
That is probably why Comey only talked about classified issues on the email server.
The Clinton Foundation was not part of the recent investigation into her private server; it was separate.
The FBI went to Justice Department earlier this year asking for it to open a case into the foundation, but the public integrity unit declined.
The Justice Department had looked into whether it should open a case on the foundation a year prior and found it didn't have sufficient evidence to do so.
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This is the story that breaks Clinton's back, if it ever gets out
August 10, 2016, 03:36 PM
olfuzzy
I bet Comey has better results with the next President and AG if he's still around.
August 10, 2016, 03:48 PM
sdy
Why on earth didn't Comey mention that ?
Comey went in front of congress and the American people and said there wasn't enough to recommend opening a case on the classified email issues.
But he never mentioned that the DoJ had denied an FBI request to open a case about the Clinton Foundation.
Trump has so much ammunition against Clinton that he isn't using
I keep thinking of the old saying "swallowing the camel, and gagging on the gnat"
August 10, 2016, 06:15 PM
PD
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Originally posted by olfuzzy: I bet Comey has better results with the next President and AG if he's still around.
I hope he's not around. He made his Faustian deal and he's outlived his usefulness. He'll get hooked up in the private sector. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
August 10, 2016, 06:19 PM
Dtech
So proud of and glad for my senior parents right now. They are currently at the Trump event here at the BB&T Center in Sunrise, FL. They just texted me and they are already having a great time.
-Dtech __________________________
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August 10, 2016, 06:22 PM
lastmanstanding
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Originally posted by PD:
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Originally posted by olfuzzy: I bet Comey has better results with the next President and AG if he's still around.
I hope he's not around. He made his Faustian deal and he's outlived his usefulness. He'll get hooked up in the private sector. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Comey And John Roberts are two men who will be looked upon by history as two men who failed to live up to the moment when their time in history to do the right thing was upon them.
"Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton
August 10, 2016, 06:29 PM
Bigboreshooter
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Originally posted by olfuzzy: I bet Comey has better results with the next President and AG if he's still around.
Comey has ZERO credibility after he sandbagged the Hag's email investigation. It won't matter what he says or does after this, he simply cannot be believed or trusted.
When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed. Luke 11:21
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August 10, 2016, 06:30 PM
Balzé Halzé
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Originally posted by comet24: The Rock sings a song for Hillary.
That had me rolling.
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August 10, 2016, 07:11 PM
bald1
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
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Originally posted by comet24: The Rock sings a song for Hillary.
That had me rolling.
Holy shit that was funny!
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August 11, 2016, 12:14 AM
rh
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Originally posted by Tubetone: The latest second amendment contortion shows a new low in politwisting. Assassination?
The propaganda folks pretending to be "news" folks have now done more than exploit Trump's loquacious nature to crown their chosen Queen. We "Second Amendment people" were equated to violent murderers.
August 11, 2016, 12:22 AM
Rightwire
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
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Originally posted by comet24: The Rock sings a song for Hillary.
That had me rolling.
"You look like a hooker...." "not the expensive kind...."
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August 11, 2016, 06:09 AM
Sig2340
Jesus Christ.
If Hillary needs a Valium injector, Trump needs a Haliperidol injector. In the gallon jug size.
"In many respects, you know, they honor President Obama," Trump said during a campaign stop in Fort Lauderdale. "He is the founder of ISIS."
Last week, his campaign tried to draw financial links between the Clinton Foundation and the terror group. Wednesday, he called Democratic Presidential nominee Hillary Clinton the group's “co-founder.”
Trump has long accused Obama and Clinton for pursuing Middle East policies that created a power vacuum in Iraq that was exploited by Islamic State. He had criticized Obama for announcing he would yank U.S. troops out of Iraq, which Obama critics believe created the instability in which extremist groups thrive.
The White House had yet to comment on Trump’s remarks.
The Islamic State group began as Iraq's local affiliate of Al Qaeda, the group that attacked the U.S. on Sept. 11, 2001. The group carried out massive attacks against Iraq's Shiite Muslim majority, fueling tensions with Al Qaeda’s central leadership. The local group's then-leader, Jordanian-born Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, was killed in 2006 in a U.S. airstrike but is still seen as the Islamic State group's founder.
ROSAL
Nice is overrated
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August 11, 2016, 06:27 AM
parabellum
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Originally posted by Sig2340: Jesus Christ.
If Hillary needs a Valium injector, Trump needs a Haliperidol injector. In the gallon jug size.
What in the world are you talking about? Are we supposed to understand this remark?
August 11, 2016, 07:11 AM
Sig2340
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Originally posted by parabellum:
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Originally posted by Sig2340: Jesus Christ.
If Hillary needs a Valium injector, Trump needs a Haliperidol injector. In the gallon jug size.
What in the world are you talking about? Are we supposed to understand this remark?
Trump is sabatoging his campaign with stupid statements like Obama "... is the founder of ISIS."
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi (God rot his psychopathic soul) founded its antecedent Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad in 1999; Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi claimed it as the Caliphate, abbreviated ISIL, in 2014.
If Trump wants to bash Obama and Clinton for a foriegn policy that led to the civil war/insurgency/jihad/madness in Iraq, Kurdistan, and Syria (something he must do) he should do so with careful statements of the facts, not reality TV sound bites that make him look like an idiot and prompt even conservative media sources to call into question his intelligence and ability to communicate.
A few ardent, early Trump supporters I know have abandoned him because of statements like this one. Much more and he gives the election to Clinton.
I'm sorry, but someone needs to get Trump to dial back the reality TV rhetoric for a while and Haliperidol, a potent 1960s antipsychotic that left the people taking it half asleep, would at the very least ratchet him down a bit.
He should rely instead on the brilliance that made him a billionaire. He can be just as anti-PC, anti-establishment, anti-status quo without the buffoonery, and will be more effective in persuading the middle 5% he needs to become President.
Nice is overrated
"It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018