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Originally posted by lbj:
I have been looking at the recent polls and see that almost all of them are "registered" voters.

Those polls are not taking account that almost half of those registered voters do not vote.

Most likely voters polls are better at predicting the outcome and there are darn few of those.

But, perhaps I am whistling past the graveyard.
No pun intended.

All 3 of the recent polls in Pennsylvania are of likely voters, not just "registered" voters.

The RCP Average: is Clinton +8.0 in Pennsylvania
http://www.realclearpolitics.c...vs_clinton-5633.html

If Trump is going to win, he's going to win in Florida, in Pennsylvania, and in either Ohio or in Virginia.

I'm not saying it can't change or that it can't be done... but there's no question that he's had a bad week to 10 days here.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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Originally posted by lbj:
I have been looking at the recent polls and see that almost all of them are "registered" voters.

Those polls are not taking account that almost half of those registered voters do not vote.

Most likely voters polls are better at predicting the outcome and there are darn few of those.

But, perhaps I am whistling past the graveyard.
No pun intended.

All 3 of the recent polls in Pennsylvania are of likely voters, not just "registered" voters.

The RCP Average: is Clinton +8.0 in Pennsylvania
http://www.realclearpolitics.c...vs_clinton-5633.html

If Trump is going to win, he's going to win in Florida, in Pennsylvania, and in either Ohio or in Virginia.

I'm not saying it can't change or that it can't be done... but there's no question that he's had a bad week to 10 days here.

If you get your information from liberal sources like "realclearpolitics.com", you'll be an unhappy camper from now until November 8th. The libs use such entities for their own service. Don't be led by the ring they so desperately want to put in your nose. Your prognostication, based on the spin they want you to believe, is that Trump is going to lose in places like Iowa, Wisconsin, Colorado, etc. He's not. He'll also carry Florida (easily), Ohio (easily), North Carolina, etc. He'll likely lose Virginia but just barely.

Trump will win the EC vote at around 303. This is not going to be a close election. It'll somewhat resemble Obama's win in 2012; respectable but not really close.

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The rest is media-manufactured propaganda. Ignore it.

Hillary's flying monkeys in the press are outdoing even Baghdad Bob. They are trying to sell a huge lie, that Trump has not merely made a mistake or two, but that he has had a disastrous two weeks. Worse than anyone can remember for a presidential candidate! His campaign is in the toilet!

The purpose is to discourage us, dishearten us, make us throw up our hands in defeat.

Just look at the throngs that continue to turn out for him. And he raised $80 million last month. Paul Ryan may well lose his primary fight next week. Hillary can barely gather a witches covey around her.

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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:



http://www.newsbusters.org/blo...-more-time-pat-smith

If Trump hadn't wasted time mentioning Khan he's be nothing more than a footnote at the convention hell I didn't even know Khan made a speech, it would have ended up as just another pandering to the party, and the information on the news would have been nothing more than Smiths.

The only reason it's bigger is Trump talked about it making it a reason for the media to spin it.

Reuters today :
Clinton 43
Trump 39

LA Times today:
Clinton 45
Trump 44

Even if this most likely voters, given the press assault the last week, the numbers are not bad for Trump.

I will say this to most gun owning Democrats and leftists.
For decades, you have depended on the republicans and other conservatives to defend your gun rights, yet most of you voted for democrats anyway.

Welp, the time has come that you all need to take a stand, start voting for gun rights candidates or YOU will be the ones responsible in the future when the 2nd Amendment gets gutted.

We cannot carry the day anymore without you voting with us. We may not have the numbers.
Sack up and vote pro second amendment.

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Originally posted by lbj:
I will say this to most gun owning Democrats and leftists.
For decades, you have depended on the republicans and other conservatives to defend your gun rights, yet most of you voted for democrats anyway.

Preach it, brother.

As Dillon Precision put it some years ago, Vote like a gun owner. If you don’t this time, you may never have another chance to do anything as a gun owner.

Just order a signed copy of DJ book. Fuck the poll fuck the media, fucking everyone that try to destroy the last chance to save this great country.

I'm prepared to make a predication for November 8th. 1,500 pages.

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Originally posted by lbj:For decades, you have depended on the republicans and other conservatives to defend your gun rights, yet most of you voted for democrats anyway.

Welp, the time has come that you all need to take a stand, start voting for gun rights candidates or YOU will be the ones responsible in the future when the 2nd Amendment gets gutted.

I have said it many times on other forums and perhaps a few on this one:

STOP VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS!

I don't care if your particular Democrat is a "good guy". Your vote for him is a vote for the agenda of Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schumer. They are the ones that will determine the legislative agenda and tell your good guy how he will vote on what issues.

Some say they aren't single issue voters. Fine. You are saying it is OK with you to be forced to turn in guns or have your door kicked in. Maybe guns aren't as important to you as some other issue, even if it means the end of the Second Amendment. Fine. You are saying it's OK with you that MY door is going to get kicked in as long as your other cause gets its due.

Get off our side!

I'm just waiting for the debates. We'll see where it goes from there. I'm sure there's more wikileaks that will come too.

Tony.

I am not trying to mean to the many Democrats who are gun owners.
But we need them voting with us on the 2A.
Alone, we cannot carry the water anymore.

I find it interesting though, that both my daughters in their mid twenties are pro 2A.

They tell me all their friends are as well.
I have met quite a few of them and their is hope for the new upcoming generation.

But it may be too late for them.

I'm very glad that Trump did not choose Newt Gingrich as VP. Gingrich "very strongly" endorsed John McCain.

Newt is a Washington player, in the worst sense.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballo...ngly-endorses-mccain

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I am not trying to mean to the many Democrats who are gun owners.
But we need them voting with us on the 2A.
Alone, we cannot carry the water anymore.

I find it interesting though, that both my daughters in their mid twenties are pro 2A.

They tell me all their friends are as well.
I have met quite a few of them and their is hope for the new upcoming generation.

But it may be too late for them.

Point taken. The Democrats have embraced gun control almost party-wide and are turning into a major issue in spite of the lack of facts, etc. They offer it up as simplistic fix of an factually irrelevant issue in the hopes that they can spin it as a major accomplishment while the issues that affect most Americans and that they care about are ignored: Job creation, tax burden, health-care.

The Democrats used to blame Republicans for making issues out of God, Gays and Guns, but they are the ones who made the issue out of guns in the first place and have gone to the extent of portraying gun owners as being complicit in mass-killings or the moral equivalent of clubby physically challenged, orphan baby seals.

As gunowners, we cannot in good conscience vote for Democrats. They need to be brought out to the woodshed in November so they can learn their lesson.

Yesterday I received a "Congressional District Census" from the RNC, two pages of questions about my Republican leanings.

Today I scrawled across the top of the first page, "The Republican Party does not support Trump, so I no longer support the Republican Party."

It gets mailed tomorrow, along with a donation directly to Trump, thanks to Sigmonkey who found an address for him.

Hillary Plots to Import Puerto Ricans to Win Florida

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-...-ricans-win-florida/

Democrat Hillary Clinton is plotting to invite in as many Puerto Rico nationals as possible to vote in central Florida in November’s election.

Puerto Ricans can only vote in the general election if they move to the United States before November and register to vote.

Activist groups are making this a top priority.

Boricua Vota is one of those groups. Mi Familia Vota is another group working principally on voter registration. Mi Familia Vota set the number 20,000 as its goal for new voter registration in 2016.

This massive migration — called “the biggest movement of people out of Puerto Rico since the great migration of the 1950s” by the Pew Research Center’s Hispanic researcher — could forever change the demographics and economy of the state of Florida. But Hillary Clinton loves it.

The Clinton campaign makes overtures to migration in its fact sheet “Growing Together: Hillary Clinton’s Vision for Puerto Ricans,” which promises a bailout, universal healthcare, and all kinds of other benefits for Puerto Ricans, including consideration of statehood.


“Puerto Rican voters have completely upended the understanding of how the state is going to vote in November,” pollster Fernand Amandi said. “They could wake up in San Juan, have breakfast and be registered to vote in the U.S. come dinnertime.”

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Originally posted by newtoSig765:
Yesterday I received a "Congressional District Census" from the RNC, two pages of questions about my Republican leanings.

Today I scrawled across the top of the first page, "The Republican Party does not support Trump, so I no longer support the Republican Party."

It gets mailed tomorrow, along with a donation directly to Trump, thanks to Sigmonkey who found an address for him.

I've been scrawling, "Who ARE you people?" on mine for a good long while.

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Originally posted by benny6:
I'm just waiting for the debates. We'll see where it goes from there. I'm sure there's more wikileaks that will come too.

Tony.

Unfortunately the ass-kicki...err...debates will have to compete for viewership with Monday Night Football. Yeah...who planned THAT, I wonder???

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Originally posted by Echtermetzger:
Point taken. The Democrats have embraced gun control almost party-wide and are turning into a major issue in spite of the lack of facts, etc. They offer it up as simplistic fix of an factually irrelevant issue in the hopes that they can spin it as a major accomplishment while the issues that affect most Americans and that they care about are ignored: Job creation, tax burden, health-care.

The Democrats used to blame Republicans for making issues out of God, Gays and Guns, but they are the ones who made the issue out of guns in the first place and have gone to the extent of portraying gun owners as being complicit in mass-killings or the moral equivalent of clubby physically challenged, orphan baby seals.

As gunowners, we cannot in good conscience vote for Democrats. They need to be brought out to the woodshed in November so they can learn their lesson.

Thank you thank you thank you.

Not everything the Democrats have done has been bad.
Republicans for the most part have changed their views on gays and the need for healthcare. We would do it differently with our twist, but nonetheless, I think many of us have changed for the better.

If you go over to realclearpolitics and play with the create your own electoral map it becomes really hard to see how Trump can win.

I gave him FL, GA, NC, OH, MO, IA, and AZ.

I gave HRC OR, NV, CO, MI, WI, PA, and VA.

She wins in the above.

If Trump can flip VA in my above scenario he wins.

It's still early, and things won't gel until Oct.

I live in a state that Trump will (should) carry (KY). If Trump loses here, he has lost the national election in an landslide.

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Originally posted by HRK:
If Trump hadn't wasted time mentioning Khan he's be nothing more than a footnote at the convention hell I didn't even know Khan made a speech, it would have ended up as just another pandering to the party, and the information on the news would have been nothing more than Smiths.

The only reason it's bigger is Trump talked about it making it a reason for the media to spin it.

That's only partially correct - yes, Trump kept it alive longer than it needed to be, but the media covered the 2 speeches completely differently. Many of the networks covering Pat Smith's speech cut away or only partially covered it, and it was given in prime time. No commentary on what it meant or how it could affect Hillary took place.

The Khan speech was fully covered by all of the media and given immediate analysis and headlines on both TV and print media.

http://www.washingtontimes.com...tandards-accelerate/