Donald Trump is a first-rate ass clown, but...

April 28, 2016, 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by Ackks:
Cruz is not a perfect man, but he is a good and decent one. When I read Boehner’s comments it makes me think of the Einstein quote, “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds”.

Face it fellas, Marcus Tullius Cicero Cruz ain't...

While I don't have a close personal friendship with Ted Cruz as you so clearly do...I have to think that a REAL good and decent man would not have jumped into bed with the GOPe he claimed to despise, as well as partnering up with a known anti-gunning political whore like Kasich. I also think a good and decent man wouldn't have made a desperate move like pandering for the woman's vote with Fiorina. A man of principle doesn't abandon his principle's for wealth or ambition.

April 28, 2016, 10:41 AM

Ackks

Like I said, I respect the opinions of those who disagree. That's how I see in my heart and I stand by it.

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Did you have anyone in particular in mind, or was it your intention to simply insult the majority of participants in this thread?

It wasn't intended for anyone in this thread, so I don't know why you would take it as such when I said when I read Boehner's quote and thought of it.

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John Boehner, the famously blunt ex-House speaker, left no doubt he's not a fan of fellow Republican Ted Cruz, leaping off the sidelines of the presidential race Wednesday night to unleash a stunning verbal lashing of the Texas senator, reportedly calling him “Lucifer in the flesh” and a “miserable son of a bitch.”

April 28, 2016, 10:58 AM

gw3971

quote:
Originally posted by Bigboreshooter:
It seems Boehner doesn't hold a very high opinion of Cruz:

http://www.foxnews.com/politic...-b.html?intcmp=hpbt3

John Boehner, the famously blunt ex-House speaker, left no doubt he's not a fan of fellow Republican Ted Cruz, leaping off the sidelines of the presidential race Wednesday night to unleash a stunning verbal lashing of the Texas senator, reportedly calling him “Lucifer in the flesh” and a “miserable son of a bitch.”

The longtime Ohio powerhouse had not been very outspoken on the race since retiring last year, but he held little back when asked about the Texas senator and underdog GOP presidential candidate during a forum at Stanford University.

“I have Democrat friends and Republican friends. I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life,” he said, according to The Stanford Daily.

He reportedly said he’s played golf with front-runner Donald Trump, describing them as “texting buddies,” and said his relationship with Ohio Gov. John Kasich “requires more effort” but they’re friends “and I love him.” He also said he’d vote for Trump in a general election – but not Cruz.

...and with that establishment endorsement I hope Cruz will get out and go back to being one of the republicans only obstructionist in the senate.

April 28, 2016, 11:01 AM

Czechvar

quote:
Originally posted by Bigboreshooter:
It seems Boehner doesn't hold a very high opinion of Cruz:

John Boehner, the famously blunt ex-House speaker...

The longtime Ohio powerhouse...

Blunt? Boehner has only been blunt and critical of the Republicans...he loves Democrats.

And Powerhouse...what is this guy smoking? The rarest species in the animal kingdom is a John Boehner fanboy...

April 28, 2016, 11:12 AM

gearhounds

As an aside, anyone that hears someone blathering about moving to Canada if Trump gets elected, have them watch this- I lol'd.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6af_1461809236

April 28, 2016, 11:36 AM

sdy

White House fence to be raised 5 feet.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/i...-Feet-377329721.html

Trump should bid on the new fence work.

Obama: higher WH fence, but no fence at our borders.

April 28, 2016, 11:39 AM

sigmonkey

quote:
Originally posted by Czechvar:
quote:
Originally posted by Bigboreshooter:
It seems Boehner doesn't hold a very high opinion of Cruz:

John Boehner, the famously blunt ex-House speaker...

The longtime Ohio powerhouse...

Blunt? Boehner has only been blunt and critical of the Republicans...he loves Democrats.

And Powerhouse...what is this guy smoking? The rarest species in the animal kingdom is a John Boehner fanboy...

They call him blunt, because "sharp as the leading edge of a bowling ball" is just not quite as flattering.

April 28, 2016, 11:47 AM

Tonyny

quote:
Originally posted by gearhounds:
As an aside, anyone that hears someone blathering about moving to Canada if Trump gets elected, have them watch this- I lol'd.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6af_1461809236

That's some funny shit

April 28, 2016, 11:50 AM

showpro

quote:
Originally posted by stormwalker:

How so? The last 25 years of US foreign policy and globalization have been nothing but detrimental to our country.

I don't agree at all. I think globalization has been a net benefit to America, the world, and most of America's citizenry.

Just look at automobiles as an example. Today, the average citizen, even what we used to think of as "working poor," can afford a high-quality car that far exceeds the features and quality of what the American "big three" were churning out decades ago. Was it better for America that Detroit union members were living like upper-middle-class execs while everyone else was buying their falling apart garbage cars?

Competition to the rescue: now the American car makers have had to compete in a global market. Even the American cars are better, Americans have more choices, and the aggregate quality is far superior.

This has played out in many markets. Are there problems? Sure. A lot of what comes from China is crap and you can't find equivalents from anywhere else, at least not that you'd want to pay for. But markets aren't smooth and perfect and these things work out, over time.

But trying to address it by "punishing" American corporations or somehow moving manufacturing back from China by fiat is not going to end well. If you believe in the efficiency of markets, let the markets do their thing. If you don't, well, then you're not capitalist are you?

BTW, I predict (without needing much of a crystal ball) that most new manufacturing on American soil in the coming decades will happen with automation. So, it won't bring back all these purported manufacturing jobs, anyway. It's not "manufacturing" anymore, it's "robofacturing". Just another example of why it's foolish to look to the past for solutions to the future's problems.

April 28, 2016, 12:02 PM

smschulz

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Originally posted by sdy:
White House fence to be raised 5 feet.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/i...-Feet-377329721.html

Trump should bid on the new fence work.

Obama: higher WH fence, but no fence at our borders.

If Trump doesn't incorporate that into his "wall" pitch he's crazy.

April 28, 2016, 01:25 PM

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April 28, 2016, 01:59 PM

cobrajet

quote:
Originally posted by showpro:
quote:
Originally posted by stormwalker:

How so? The last 25 years of US foreign policy and globalization have been nothing but detrimental to our country.

I don't agree at all. I think globalization has been a net benefit to America, the world, and most of America's citizenry.

Just look at automobiles as an example. Today, the average citizen, even what we used to think of as "working poor," can afford a high-quality car that far exceeds the features and quality of what the American "big three" were churning out decades ago. Was it better for America that Detroit union members were living like upper-middle-class execs while everyone else was buying their falling apart garbage cars?

Competition to the rescue: now the American car makers have had to compete in a global market. Even the American cars are better, Americans have more choices, and the aggregate quality is far superior.

This has played out in many markets. Are there problems? Sure. A lot of what comes from China is crap and you can't find equivalents from anywhere else, at least not that you'd want to pay for. But markets aren't smooth and perfect and these things work out, over time.

But trying to address it by "punishing" American corporations or somehow moving manufacturing back from China by fiat is not going to end well. If you believe in the efficiency of markets, let the markets do their thing. If you don't, well, then you're not capitalist are you?

BTW, I predict (without needing much of a crystal ball) that most new manufacturing on American soil in the coming decades will happen with automation. So, it won't bring back all these purported manufacturing jobs, anyway. It's not "manufacturing" anymore, it's "robofacturing". Just another example of why it's foolish to look to the past for solutions to the future's problems.

Well said, the only disagreement I have with that is that most of the stuff made in China can be bought from American companies for a decent, maybe slightly higher price, but the higher price is more than made up for in quality. Are more companies moving out because of our outrageous taxes and regulations? Sure they are, but they are not all gone yet. The exception to that is electronics, not a lot of choice there. The problem is buying the China made stuff is easier because you do have to s arch for the American made equivalent. Most people just don't care and there is no pride in buying American anymore. Like it or not, consumers share almost as much responsibility for this as our government. It's simple, if you want to live in a country that produces stuff, you have to buy stuff made in that country. I know I quit buying certain brands when they moved out of the U.S. That said, the way to bring them back is not to make everything more expensive, but to make it cheaper to do business here. Another note, most of the companies I buy from manufacture in the south where shocker, there aren't unions and the taxes aren't AS high.

April 28, 2016, 02:04 PM

Mainframe Coder

quote:
Originally posted by cobrajet:

Well said, the only disagreement I have with that is that most of the stuff made in China can be bought from American companies for a decent, maybe slightly higher price

Most? Not even close. Some? A few? Maybe.

April 28, 2016, 02:14 PM

cobrajet

quote:
Originally posted by Mainframe Coder:
quote:
Originally posted by cobrajet:

Well said, the only disagreement I have with that is that most of the stuff made in China can be bought from American companies for a decent, maybe slightly higher price

Most? Not even close. Some? A few? Maybe.

Most of what I buy anyway, maybe you buy different stuff than I do. About the only thing I have made in China is a cellphone and tablet, and maybe a TV if Vizeo moved out of the U.S.

April 28, 2016, 02:21 PM

Himiko

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White House fence to be raised 5 feet.

Why not just hire more competent Secret Service people. You know, guys that will watch monitors and things.

April 28, 2016, 02:21 PM

showpro

Well, I didn't say "most", I said "a lot." So, I think we agree, cobrajet.

April 28, 2016, 02:31 PM

cobrajet

quote:
Originally posted by showpro:
Well, I didn't say "most", I said "a lot." So, I think we agree, cobrajet.

Sorry, I guess I'm so used to people saying that that I thought that's what you were saying as well. What I said about the consumers is a very important factor though. Kind of like somebody who moves to Alaska and is shocked that it's cold there.

April 28, 2016, 02:34 PM

Czechvar

quote:
Originally posted by Himiko:
quote:
White House fence to be raised 5 feet.

Why not just hire more competent Secret Service people. You know, guys that will watch monitors and things.

I imagine morale in the Presidential Details are at rock bottom under this Administration...Probably as bad as when Hillary was there...

April 28, 2016, 02:39 PM

sdy

Trump facebook response to the WH fence:

"President Obama understands that you build strong, tall, beautiful walls to keep people out who don't belong. People who get permission can enter the White House LEGALLY!"

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-...r-white-house-fence/

April 28, 2016, 03:02 PM

stormwalker

quote:
Originally posted by showpro:

I don't agree at all. I think globalization has been a net benefit to America, the world, and most of America's citizenry.
Resulting in fewer jobs, lower wages, inhibited entrepreneurship (small business), and a disparaged middle class who can no longer support a family with a single bread winner working a 40 hour work week.

Just look at automobiles as an example. Today, the average citizen, even what we used to think of as "working poor," can afford a high-quality car that far exceeds the features and quality of what the American "big three" were churning out decades ago. Was it better for America that Detroit union members were living like upper-middle-class execs while everyone else was buying their falling apart garbage cars?
"The working poor", who live on government subsidy, have no savings account, and ride around in a "high-quality car" in which a loan company holds the title to.

Competition to the rescue: now the American car makers have had to compete in a global market. Even the American cars are better, Americans have more choices, and the aggregate quality is far superior.
A global market that imposes nonreciprocal, Duties, VAT's, and Tariffs that hinder American exports, funneling consumer dollars abroad.

This has played out in many markets. Are there problems? Sure. A lot of what comes from China is crap and you can't find equivalents from anywhere else, at least not that you'd want to pay for. But markets aren't smooth and perfect and these things work out, over time.
Tens of thousands of small business get smoothed over every year trying to compete with government syndicated industries which employ currency manipulation, patent infringement, sweatshop labor, and environmentally unregulated manufacturing processes.

But trying to address it by "punishing" American corporations or somehow moving manufacturing back from China by fiat is not going to end well. If you believe in the efficiency of markets, let the markets do their thing. If you don't, well, then you're not capitalist are you? A skewed market is not a free market.

BTW, I predict (without needing much of a crystal ball) that most new manufacturing on American soil in the coming decades will happen with automation. So, it won't bring back all these purported manufacturing jobs, anyway. It's not "manufacturing" anymore, it's "robofacturing". Just another example of why it's foolish to look to the past for solutions to the future's problems.
"Robofacturing will create new employment opportunities for those countries that employ and operate them. The "foolish" thing to do is letting the fear of change hinder melioration.