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Donald Trump is a first-rate ass clown, but...
March 18, 2016, 08:39 AM
PASigDonald Trump is a first-rate ass clown, but...
quote:
Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
For the Trump supporters, who do you think he picks as VP? Conventional wisdom currently says he'll pick Kasich - to give him Ohio and help him in the midwest. How do you guys feel about a Trump/Kasich ticket?
What makes you think that?
I get the impression Trump can't stand the guy and his grandstanding. During the debates he would regularly ask Kasich and his miniscule numbers: "Why are you still here?"
March 18, 2016, 08:42 AM
GunFire"Yeah, baby!" Looks like the rinos make be getting a stick in their spoke. Hope this idea spreads quickly to other states.
Trump and Cruz Delegates in Tennessee To Form Grassroots Alliance, Pledge Support for Anti-Establishment CandidateNASHVILLE, Tennessee— Many of the 49 delegates in Tennessee who are pledged to either Donald Trump or Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) will reportedly meet this month to seal a grassroots alliance in which they pledge their votes during any contested convention only to Trump or Cruz.
“My concern is that whether you are a Cruz delegate or a Trump delegate the establishment wants to nominate somebody like John Kasich who has no mathematical chance or moral authority to become the nominee because he has received so few votes in the primaries,” former State Rep. Joe Carr, an at-large Cruz delegate, tells Breitbart News. He adds:
As a result of this flagrant attempt at hijacking the process, I have contacted several of the Tennessee Trump and Cruz delegates in an effort to band together with the goal of making sure that the duly elected delegates have their voices heard according to current RNC Convention Rules. If the establishment persists in their recklessness attempt to steal the nomination from either Donald Trump or Senator Cruz, the Republican Party may not recover for a generation.
Others are also speaking out. “I am concerned about the future of our country and I believe a brokered convention will only mean that Hillary will win,” State Senator Mae Beavers (R-Mt. Juliet), an at-large Trump delegate, tells Breitbart News. “It’s time we all honor our commitment to the process and to the people who elected us. I will do whatever I can to work with all delegates to make sure that is done,” Beavers adds.
Carr and former Nashville talk radio host Steve Gill, also a Cruz delegate, intend to meet Trump delegate Beavers today to discuss the details of a bigger meeting next week to which all Trump and Cruz delegates elected in the March 1 Tennessee primary will be invited.
They tell Breitbart News they plan on pledging that their votes at the Republican National Convention will be for one of the two anti-establishment candidates, Trump or Cruz, on every ballot cast after their legal obligation to vote for the candidate for whom they pledged their commitment. The two outsider candidates have won more than 77 percent of all the Republican convention delegates selected in the state primaries and caucuses to date.
rest of the story...
http://www.breitbart.com/big-g...blishment-candidate/March 18, 2016, 08:51 AM
tgajakquote:
They tell Breitbart News they plan on pledging that their votes at the Republican National Convention will be for one of the two anti-establishment candidates, Trump or Cruz, on every ballot cast after their legal obligation to vote for the candidate for whom they pledged their commitment. The two outsider candidates have won more than 77 percent of all the Republican convention delegates selected in the state primaries and caucuses to date.
This is outstanding! Especially if it spreads to other states' delegates. If this actually takes hold, Trump's and Cruz's supporters will be more likely to come out to vote if their first pick doesn't get the nomination.
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March 18, 2016, 08:52 AM
ChicagoSigManquote:
Originally posted by PASig:
quote:
Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
For the Trump supporters, who do you think he picks as VP? Conventional wisdom currently says he'll pick Kasich - to give him Ohio and help him in the midwest. How do you guys feel about a Trump/Kasich ticket?
What makes you think that?
I get the impression Trump can't stand the guy and his grandstanding. During the debates he would regularly ask Kasich and his miniscule numbers: "Why are you still here?"
I'm just repeating what I hear the talking heads saying. I have no idea who he will pick, although I can't say Kasich would be a surprise. Who do you think he will put on the ticket?
March 18, 2016, 09:01 AM
kx90quote:
Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
quote:
Originally posted by PASig:
quote:
Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
For the Trump supporters, who do you think he picks as VP? Conventional wisdom currently says he'll pick Kasich - to give him Ohio and help him in the midwest. How do you guys feel about a Trump/Kasich ticket?
What makes you think that?
I get the impression Trump can't stand the guy and his grandstanding. During the debates he would regularly ask Kasich and his miniscule numbers: "Why are you still here?"
I'm just repeating what I hear the talking heads saying. I have no idea who he will pick, although I can't say Kasich would be a surprise. Who do you think he will put on the ticket?
Have you not learned anything yet? Conventional wisdom is out the window and the talking heads keep trying to apply "business as usual logic" to everything that is happening right now and it's not working out so well for them.
March 18, 2016, 09:04 AM
sdyquote:
Many of the 49 delegates in Tennessee who are pledged to either Donald Trump or Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) will reportedly meet this month to seal a grassroots alliance in which they pledge their votes during any contested convention only to Trump or Cruz.
great news ! Hope it spreads
different issue: how much was spent on Rep candidates who dropped out ? Here are numbers for combined campaign and Super PAC spending
(millions)
bush 125
rubio 67
carson 63
walker 32
Christie 26
fiorina 20
paul 15
graham 9
huckabee 9
jindal 4
perry 4
santorum 2
pataki 2
total 377 million
March 18, 2016, 09:10 AM
Balzé Halzéquote:
Originally posted by kx90:
Have you not learned anything yet? Conventional wisdom is out the window and the talking heads keep trying to apply "business as usual logic" to everything that is happening right now and it's not working out so well for them.
Putting Kasich on the ticket would be a pretty solid move by The Donald. You can't deny that it makes a lot of sense.
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March 18, 2016, 09:15 AM
CzechvarI deny that it makes any sense at all. Just to get Ohio? What makes anyone think Trump would need anyone's help in Ohio during a General Election against the old Communist fart or Hillary.
March 18, 2016, 09:20 AM
Balzé Halzéquote:
Originally posted by Czechvar:
I deny that it makes any sense at all. Just to get Ohio? What makes anyone think Trump would need anyone's help in Ohio during a General Election?
Why take a chance?
I'm just thinking now too that Florida Attorney General Pan Bondi might make a good VP choice.
~Alan
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March 18, 2016, 09:21 AM
kx90quote:
Originally posted by Czechvar:
I deny that it makes any sense at all. Just to get Ohio? What makes anyone think Trump would need anyone's help in Ohio during a General Election?
Ditto. People keep trying to make "political" sense of what Trump is going to do, hasn't worked out so well for most people so far.
Need to start thinking like someone trying to destroy the political ways instead of a typical established politician.
March 18, 2016, 09:23 AM
braillediverTrump is succeeding because he's Not listening to the experts.
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March 18, 2016, 10:01 AM
ChicagoSigManquote:
Originally posted by kx90:
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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
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Originally posted by PASig:
quote:
Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
For the Trump supporters, who do you think he picks as VP? Conventional wisdom currently says he'll pick Kasich - to give him Ohio and help him in the midwest. How do you guys feel about a Trump/Kasich ticket?
What makes you think that?
I get the impression Trump can't stand the guy and his grandstanding. During the debates he would regularly ask Kasich and his miniscule numbers: "Why are you still here?"
I'm just repeating what I hear the talking heads saying. I have no idea who he will pick, although I can't say Kasich would be a surprise. Who do you think he will put on the ticket?
Have you not learned anything yet? Conventional wisdom is out the window and the talking heads keep trying to apply "business as usual logic" to everything that is happening right now and it's not working out so well for them.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious. All I am trying to do is see who you guys think he will pick and who you would like him to pick. If you don't want to participate, that's fine too.
March 18, 2016, 10:05 AM
kx90I have no idea who he is going to pick. I just hope it's someone that is like him in that they too will say to the political world "We're done with your shit".
No Kasich, no Rubio, no Bush, etc. I wouldn't mind if he picked Fiorina or someone like her.
March 18, 2016, 10:12 AM
Bigboreshooterquote:
Originally posted by kx90:
I have no idea who he is going to pick. I just hope it's someone that is like him in that they too will say to the political world "We're done with your shit".
No Kasich, no Rubio, no Bush, etc. I wouldn't mind if he picked Fiorina or someone like her.
I have mixed feelings about the VP choice. While I agree with you to a point, I also think Trump would benefit by having someone with legislative experience as VP, since the VP presides over the Senate. Trump will have to navigate through the congressional waters to get anything he wants to do put into law.
Though I'm not a huge fan, this might actually be a good spot for Rand Paul to land. Certainly Cruz would be good, but I'm not sure Cruz would take it.
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March 18, 2016, 10:17 AM
kx90I wouldn't want any of the current "good" guys in congress to end up as VP. They'd more useful to stay in congress I believe.
I understand your point and agree but, I think what has gotten Trump to this point is the 'anti-politics' and he needs to be careful in who he picks for VP so as not to upset that.
March 18, 2016, 10:22 AM
gw3971Kasich as VP? Wasn't he all for the assault weapons ban with Bill and Hillary?
March 18, 2016, 10:42 AM
thejudgequote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Putting Kasich on the ticket would be a pretty solid move by The Donald. You can't deny that it makes a lot of sense.
It does make sense if Trump can control Kasich once he is in the VP slot AND Trump could also make a back room deal with Cruz to placate him by promising to nominate Ted for the supreme court.
March 18, 2016, 10:54 AM
rusbroStating the obvious, the VP pick probably almost entirely depends on which voting block Trump thinks he needs to target. He's operated counter to conventional political wisdom time and again and so far been very successful at it. Conventional wisdom would say Kasich or someone like him, but for all we know it could be Ted Nugent or Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho.
March 18, 2016, 10:54 AM
olfuzzy.[/QUOTE]
It does make sense if Trump can control Kasich once he is in the VP slot AND Trump could also make a back room deal with Cruz to placate him by promising to nominate Ted for the supreme court.[/QUOTE]
As much as Cruz is hated in the Senate, I don't know if they would confirm him or not.
March 18, 2016, 12:26 PM
Loganspawnquote:
Originally posted by rusbro:
Stating the obvious, the VP pick probably almost entirely depends on which voting block Trump thinks he needs to target. He's operated counter to conventional political wisdom time and again and so far been very successful at it. Conventional wisdom would say Kasich or someone like him, but for all we know it could be Ted Nugent or Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho.
I don't know if Camacho would take the VP slot.
Is there all the free Starbucks you want???
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